-
Tweets47K
-
Followers1.1M
-
Following415
-
Likes323
Why did so many hunter gatherer groups around the world nearly-simultaneously and in an unconnected way develop agriculture? This has been a kinda problematic question in human prehistory. It may have been solved... by an economist? Studying the economics of... Earth's orbit?
To expect an elected administration to prioritize (insert cadre) over rewarding people who sacrificed to bring it to power, and who it will need next election, is to be ignorant about democracy in particular and human nature in general—a fool’s paradise.
Prof Nura Mohammed, Ag Director General, @KSGKenya in the company of colleagues from the School paid a courtesy visit to Prof @DavidNdii chairperson of the the President's Council of Economic Advisors (CEA). The meeting looked into KSG'S programs towards public service training.
Kenya has one of the largest, densest and well maintained road networks in Africa, paid for with Fuel Levy funds. There are no free lunches. Public goods are paid for.
Kenya has one of the largest, densest and well maintained road networks in Africa, paid for with Fuel Levy funds. There are no free lunches. Public goods are paid for. https://t.co/45WdcfYqMf
Secretary(ER) Dammu Ravi discussed partnership prospects in agriculture, DPI, healthcare, energy and infrastructure with Senior Adviser @Augcheruiyot, Chairperson @DavidNdii and other members of the Council of Economic Advisors in the Executive Office of the President. @MEAIndia
Stronger than gold, more valuable than silver …the Kenyan shilling is the world’s top performing currency I’d argue this is a Kenyan-led success and not one that looked inevitable a year ago. And most definitely not easy for Kenya’s taxpayers. Respect
Stronger than gold, more valuable than silver …the Kenyan shilling is the world’s top performing currency I’d argue this is a Kenyan-led success and not one that looked inevitable a year ago. And most definitely not easy for Kenya’s taxpayers. Respect
Welcome to Africa”s greatest city @LarryMadowo Feel at home.
Welcome to Africa”s greatest city @LarryMadowo Feel at home. https://t.co/ryzqekuzuQ
Court ordered mediation is ongoing. @koske_felix has been reporting progress dutifully.
Court ordered mediation is ongoing. @koske_felix has been reporting progress dutifully. https://t.co/OLv5YcRCXR
This jamaa needs to move on. Akubali huko Bomas kulienda vile kulienda. Pia kuachwa kwa mataa na RAO ni “par for the course”. Hata sisi RAO alituacha kwa mataa and we moved on. In short Mr. Uhuru Kenyatta, get. a. life.
This jamaa needs to move on. Akubali huko Bomas kulienda vile kulienda. Pia kuachwa kwa mataa na RAO ni “par for the course”. Hata sisi RAO alituacha kwa mataa and we moved on. In short Mr. Uhuru Kenyatta, get. a. life.
@DavidNdii Dead as a dodo! jandehn.com/post/the-downw…
It’s taking a while for the penny to drop. Read my lips. “The West” is history.
It’s taking a while for the penny to drop. Read my lips. “The West” is history.
This is an example of the legacy of marginalization that motivated devolution of healthcare. Note that Kiambu here is district as at 2007 which is about half the County.
This is an example of the legacy of marginalization that motivated devolution of healthcare. Note that Kiambu here is district as at 2007 which is about half the County. https://t.co/nuBe1oDhWM
That is not from our manifesto. This is our position.
Of which: Paid SGR loan $500m. Another $500m due beginning of July Bought back Eurobonds $1.5b. Balance of $500m due end June. Retired Sh70b (~$500m) matured infrastructure bond Debt service (not exhaustive) $3.5b
Of which: Paid SGR loan $500m. Another $500m due beginning of July Bought back Eurobonds $1.5b. Balance of $500m due end June. Retired Sh70b (~$500m) matured infrastructure bond Debt service (not exhaustive) $3.5b
Such an incredible weekend! Gratitude for all, Kenya 🇰🇪
Morning very well spent
Ngarĩ ĩnyitagũo nĩ ũtaarĩ ho. (Those who were not in the hunt narrate how they would have caught the leopard)
Ngarĩ ĩnyitagũo nĩ ũtaarĩ ho. (Those who were not in the hunt narrate how they would have caught the leopard)
I see you also missed inflation targeting class. Do your homework. Tutorial discussion questions. What are the different dimensions of Central Bank independence. What is difference between goal and instrument independence?
I see you also missed inflation targeting class. Do your homework. Tutorial discussion questions. What are the different dimensions of Central Bank independence. What is difference between goal and instrument independence? https://t.co/UDysDsTLbn
Ahmednasir Abdullahi .. @ahmednasirlaw
2.3M Followers 81 Following Constitutional Lawyer, Senior Counsel. Publisher of the Nairobi Law Monthly @NLM_magazineSen. Ledama Olekina @ledamalekina
1.4M Followers 3K Following Senator Narok County Official Account.Mohamed Wehliye, MBS @WehliyeMohamed
991K Followers 502 Following Central Banker. Dad. Husband. Pastoralist. 'From those to whom much has been given, much will be required' Starehean. Opinions my own. Retweets not endorsements-Dennis Itumbi, CBS @OleItumbi
2.3M Followers 9K Following Come Here, Go there.. The Home of Dreams! #SystemYaFacts #GOKInteracts Home of Ideas Connecting dreams to opportunityKIPCHUMBA MURKOMEN, E.. @kipmurkomen
2.7M Followers 3K Following Husband, Father,Son, Brother,Uncle and Kenya’s Cabinet Secretary Roads&Transport. I am both a work of art and an artist at work !Hussein Mohamed, MBS. @HusseinMohamedg
708K Followers 3K Following StateHouse Spokesperson, Executive Office of the President.Dr. John Njenga Karug.. @johnnjenga
312K Followers 51K Following Humboldt University Berlin Researcher Lecturer. Visiting Professor Hassanudin University Makassar. Transregional Studies, Memory Studies/Ethics, CosmopolitanismHon. William Kabogo @honkabogo
880K Followers 1K Following This is the Official account of the party leader @tujibebeparty and 1st Governor Kiambu County.Prof Makau Mutua @makaumutua
1.4M Followers 1K Following SUNY Distinguished Professor; Margaret W. Wong Professor; Former Dean @UBSchoolofLaw; Sunday Columnist @NationAfrica; Global Citizen.Hon Millicent Omanga @MillicentOmanga
1.0M Followers 86 Following Wife | Mother | Deputy Cabinet Secretary - Ministry of Interior | Senator 2017 - 2022 | Director: KenGen 2014 - 2017 | Businesslady |#MamaMiradiRt.Hon.Dr.Moses Wetan.. @HonWetangula
1.1M Followers 51 Following 8th Speaker of the National Assembly of the Republic of Kenya.Mohammed Ali, HSC @MohaJichoPevu
1.6M Followers 52 Following PSC COMMISSIONER, MP NYALI/ INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST -All views here are my own.Lindah Oguttu aka Mtu.. @lindahoguttu
800K Followers 3K Following Strategic Communications,Media Consultant, Moderator. 🇰🇪📺🎙📻🎤 📧 [email protected]Ndindi Nyoro @NdindiNyoro
823K Followers 519 Following Kiharu MP and Entrepreneur. Published Author.Edwin Sifuna @edwinsifuna
972K Followers 601 Following Partner, E. Sifuna & Associates Advocates, Secretary General, @TheODMparty, Senator, Nairobi County, Deputy Minority Whip @Senate_KEOliver Mathenge @OliverMathenge
545K Followers 5K Following Husband | Girl Dad | Storyteller | New Media Guru & Trainer | Managing Editor (Audiences & Engagement), @nationmediagrp | RTs may be endorsementsMark Masai @MarkMasai
661K Followers 2K Following PR & Communication Strategist| Journalist| Corporate MC & Moderator| Voice Over Artist| Budding Entrepreneur & Actor| Arsenal.Hon. Aden Duale, EGH @HonAdenDuale
1.0M Followers 2K Following Cabinet Secretary Ministry of Defence, First Leader of Majority Party in the @NAssemblyKE - 11th and 12th Parliaments under the 2010 Constitution,Mwango Capital @MwangoCapital
118K Followers 986 Following |❤️Financial Research & Analysis on East Africa Markets| |🗞️Newsletter: https://t.co/vXkqHKrslm| |💬WhatsApp: https://t.co/aiPsJmwtqB…|Cyrus Irungu @icyrus847
1 Followers 72 FollowingJamila Khadar @jamila_khadar
3K Followers 5K Following Humanitarian and development practitioner. Somali Social activist.bujubanton @bujubanton12715
0 Followers 50 FollowingMiss B @M1ssB1
0 Followers 80 FollowingAndrew Papai @AndrewPapa23562
0 Followers 28 FollowingMeshack Kipchumba @kip12226
3 Followers 66 FollowingMARTIN MUTHINI @MartinMar5433
0 Followers 67 FollowingTricia Powers @powers_tri37644
0 Followers 6 FollowingSimon Mugo @S2037m
21 Followers 46 FollowingMoses Gituma @MosesGitum81511
1 Followers 221 FollowingCyrus Gitau @CyrusGitau34515
1 Followers 81 FollowingAlbert Koske @albertkosk
6 Followers 312 FollowingSam @csam25
41 Followers 101 FollowingKisavi Mutuku @KisaviKM
2 Followers 95 FollowingIni @NoTei_Ke
0 Followers 146 Followingwanjama @ikigu3027
1 Followers 8 FollowingFaith @Faith9339723791
0 Followers 57 FollowingAnh Nguyen @AnhPTNguyen
3 Followers 282 FollowingTollsan @Tollsan2019
0 Followers 61 FollowingJoy Favour @JoyceMathe39374
1 Followers 39 FollowingJoy @joymumbua4
12 Followers 109 Followingsaisi @saisi88396
4 Followers 105 FollowingTrev Jarmaine @TrevJ66605
0 Followers 21 Followingfrancis Kibera @FrancisK4190
1 Followers 48 FollowingDennis Mbuthia @Mbuthia58Dennis
7 Followers 257 FollowingClinton kamau Wangui @ClintonWan83904
30 Followers 658 Followingdamo @dambobo60
0 Followers 40 FollowingFlorence Ndege @FlorenceNd93493
0 Followers 20 FollowingGold Chauffeuring Ltd @gold_ltd88171
1 Followers 60 Following Discover Premier UK Chauffeur Services - Book Today! VIP service for Business people and Diplomats. Clients: Leaders from Afruca /Royalty from GCCEssau Marende @EssauMarende
1 Followers 125 FollowingZippieh Zippy @ZippiehZ95236
0 Followers 1 FollowingElizabeth Lang @lang_eliza41930
0 Followers 4 FollowingPaulina Waringa @PWaringaa
1 Followers 33 FollowingChegeh St. Gadiiville.. @ChegehGadson
44 Followers 480 Following God first***** truthful and sincere.Pleasant,obliging, and attentive. Hidden purity of ideas and intentions.Not noisy prefer to remain away from crowds.#CFCjoseph mwaura @nyanjuijm
15 Followers 109 FollowingStanleymulinge @Stanleymul43601
1 Followers 62 FollowingDouglas Ongoki. @doug14714
0 Followers 77 Followingstanley cheptallam @SktallamStanley
1 Followers 85 Followingste mach @Stephenmchege
0 Followers 21 Followingalex kyuma @alexkyuma8
1 Followers 84 FollowingJulaibib Jeilani @jeilani61488
11 Followers 141 Followingvincent Nyakundi @vincentNya90809
2 Followers 115 FollowingAhmednasir Abdullahi .. @ahmednasirlaw
2.3M Followers 81 Following Constitutional Lawyer, Senior Counsel. Publisher of the Nairobi Law Monthly @NLM_magazineSen. Ledama Olekina @ledamalekina
1.4M Followers 3K Following Senator Narok County Official Account.Mohamed Wehliye, MBS @WehliyeMohamed
991K Followers 502 Following Central Banker. Dad. Husband. Pastoralist. 'From those to whom much has been given, much will be required' Starehean. Opinions my own. Retweets not endorsements-Dennis Itumbi, CBS @OleItumbi
2.3M Followers 9K Following Come Here, Go there.. The Home of Dreams! #SystemYaFacts #GOKInteracts Home of Ideas Connecting dreams to opportunityKIPCHUMBA MURKOMEN, E.. @kipmurkomen
2.7M Followers 3K Following Husband, Father,Son, Brother,Uncle and Kenya’s Cabinet Secretary Roads&Transport. I am both a work of art and an artist at work !Hussein Mohamed, MBS. @HusseinMohamedg
708K Followers 3K Following StateHouse Spokesperson, Executive Office of the President.Dr. John Njenga Karug.. @johnnjenga
312K Followers 51K Following Humboldt University Berlin Researcher Lecturer. Visiting Professor Hassanudin University Makassar. Transregional Studies, Memory Studies/Ethics, CosmopolitanismProf Makau Mutua @makaumutua
1.4M Followers 1K Following SUNY Distinguished Professor; Margaret W. Wong Professor; Former Dean @UBSchoolofLaw; Sunday Columnist @NationAfrica; Global Citizen.Mohammed Ali, HSC @MohaJichoPevu
1.6M Followers 52 Following PSC COMMISSIONER, MP NYALI/ INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST -All views here are my own.Lindah Oguttu aka Mtu.. @lindahoguttu
800K Followers 3K Following Strategic Communications,Media Consultant, Moderator. 🇰🇪📺🎙📻🎤 📧 [email protected]Martha Karua SC @MarthaKarua
1.7M Followers 536 Following Mother | Proud Grandmother | Senior Counsel | Member of Azimio La Umoja Coalition National Leadership | Party Leader, @NarckenyaEdwin Sifuna @edwinsifuna
972K Followers 601 Following Partner, E. Sifuna & Associates Advocates, Secretary General, @TheODMparty, Senator, Nairobi County, Deputy Minority Whip @Senate_KEState House Kenya @StateHouseKenya
2.1M Followers 232 FollowingHassan Ali Joho, EGH. @HassanAliJoho
1.6M Followers 97 FollowingJUNET MOHAMED, CBS @JunetMohamed
991K Followers 210 Following House Minority Whip - @NAssemblyKe || MP ~ Suna East || Sec Gen #Azimio || Director of Elections - @TheODMParty. #InawezekanaProf. Alfred Omenya @aomenya
106K Followers 542 Following Sustainable architecture, urbanism + inst. dev. expert. CEO, Eco-Build Africa/Ad.Prof. Canberra/Dir. IBQC + AAK Fellow. Former: Dean(TUK)/Prof. UoN+Wits(RSA).Dr. Roselyn Akombe @DrRoselynAkombe
194K Followers 183 Following Optimist| #GoodTrouble|Views expressed are my own.#LandIsNotProperty Mw.. @wmnjoya
160K Followers 2K Following African. Woman. Wife. Teacher. In the 99%. Love + Revolution. Elimu ya ngumbaru on the Kenyan socio-political context for the price of bundles - Betty GuchuMohamed A. El-Erian @elerianm
680K Followers 1K Following President, Queens' College, Cambridge Uni. Allianz, Gramercy advisor. Wharton Professor. Lauder Senior Fellow. Former Pimco CEO/co-CiO. Chair Cambridge Union.Wangui Mbuguiro @WanguiMbuguiro
443 Followers 331 Following PhD Candidate using computational biology to study gynepathologies. Working towards #ScienceForAll. she/her. @MacGLab @ICM_jhu #BiomedicalEngineerAlfred Ombudo K’Omb.. @AlfredKOmbudo
2K Followers 111 Following Principal Secretary, Trade, Government of KenyaPS Betsy Njagi - Blue.. @PS_Betsy_Njagi
485 Followers 11 Following Principal Secretary State Department for The Blue Economy and Fisheries, Ministry of Mining Blue Economy and Maritime Affairs.DICKSON MAGECHA @Dicksonmagecha
4K Followers 650 Following Financial Markets Enthusiast/ Afro-optimist/ Husband/Father. All views are my own & RTs are not endorsementsMuokatene Ken @KenMuokatene
2K Followers 903 Following ●CEO AltCo.,Africa & Middle E. ●Consultant, finance & compliance. ●Commercial law ☆When you are more blessed than others, build a longer table not a fence.UK in Kenya 🇬🇧�.. @UKinKenya
82K Followers 2K Following Tweets from the British High Commission in #Kenya. See also High Commissioner @FCDONeilWigan, and Deputy HC @JosephineGauldOliver Kipchumba Karo.. @karorikipchumba
13K Followers 105 Following An advocate of The High Court of KenyaNoema Magazine @NoemaMag
157K Followers 4K Following Longform journalism exploring fresh ideas. Pitch us: [email protected]Ryder Cup @rydercup
334K Followers 243 Following Official Ryder Cup Page. Follow us for updates and @RyderCupEurope & @RyderCupUSA for on-going team tweets.4Low KE @4low_Ke
53K Followers 99 Following Keep it here on 4low where we seek fun when the road endsCouncil of Economic A.. @CEAdvisorsKE
1K Followers 3 Following We support the president to provide evidence-based policy leadershipRobert Kabushenga @rkabushenga
404K Followers 2K Following Obsessive Farmer & Administrator- @RugyeyoFarm | Ugandan, couldn't be anything else. Curator & Host for @_360MentorMworia Dorothy. @mworia_dorothy
144 Followers 148 FollowingJosephine Ngure, PhD @JosephineNgure
411 Followers 270 Following Development; Corporate Finance/Governance; Oxonian; Rhodes Scholar; CPA(K); For a Better Africa Tomorrow. Retweets not endorsements. Views my own.The Future of Agricul.. @Agriculfuture
172K Followers 6 Following The Future of Agriculture promotes agriculture by sharing innovative solutions to achieve SDG2 for sustainably feeding the planet.@Mwende_Gatabaki @mwende_gatabaki
1K Followers 34 FollowingDr Sylvia Kangara @SylviaKangara
27K Followers 885 Following Advisor and Member of the President’s Council of Economic Advisors, Executive Office of the President, State House, Kenya. 🇰🇪Dr. Linda Musumba @LindaMusumba
4K Followers 1K Following Managing Partner, Dr. Linda Musumba & Co. Advocates.Joyce Nyairo @jnyairo
7K Followers 1K Following Research : The Arts. The Politics of Culture. The Culture of Politics.The Kyiv Independent @KyivIndependent
2.1M Followers 37 Following Become a member: https://t.co/jsQiFkoveH One-time donation: https://t.co/eNwj76xa7aOtwoma @Otwoma6
429 Followers 385 Following Seasoned public servant inspected radiological facilities assuring radiation protection then nuclear safeguards now advising government on science & technologyMr. Kinuthia Pius. @Belive_Kinuthia
383K Followers 90K Following The Voice of The People|| It's my duty to take part in Nation Building.Janice Houston (she/h.. @memetrix
153 Followers 216 Following 🚀🛰📡 Ally and advocate for STEM, 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️Zainab Usman @MssZeeUsman
80K Followers 3K Following Director, @AfricaCarnegie • Ex-@WorldBank • Author, "Economic Diversification in Nigeria": https://t.co/HvyDkChZUd • Doing, Thinking & Writing Economic Policy 🌍Moses Oduor @moce_o
632 Followers 2K FollowingJomo KS @ksjomo
4K Followers 43 Following Economist and writer. I do not endorse any commercial products and services, nor political parties and politicians.Bevalyne Kwamboka @bevalynekwambo3
147K Followers 34K Following blossoms of savannah | your favorite Chipo mwitu vendor.Charlie Robertson @CharlieTTEcon
31K Followers 2K Following Head of macro-strategy at FIM Partners, but this is personal account; TED talk on Africa, author Fastest Billion and The Time Travelling Economist @TTTEconomistDina D. Pomeranz 🟣 @DinaPomeranz
71K Followers 12K Following Econ prof @econ_uzh, formerly @HarvardHBS. Board @EvidenceAction, @HelvetasCH, IIPF. Co-founder @gain_network_. Affiliate @JPAL, @cepr_org, @CESifoNetwork.Jesus Christ⌚ @Jesus_FH_Christ
13K Followers 367 Following Carpenter. Shepherd. Part-time Magician. Started with 12 followers. I blaspheme myself. Love tithes. Not a Parody! Language: tongues https://t.co/2mjQHMiiLPLinet @LinetKwambokaN
4K Followers 57 Following The Data Scientist. Raising Clever Little Humans. Introverted but Willing to Discuss Data.Sasha Alyson 🌍🌏.. @TrojanAid
268K Followers 321 Following Colonialism never went away. It put on a happy face and calls itself "aid." More stories at: https://t.co/DQqUgZA1n7PG Rx @GathirimuPeter
1K Followers 1K Following Catholic. Lay Dominican. Weight Loss. Diabetes. Hypertension. PsychoNeuroImmunology. Thoughts are Health. #GoodHearts #VeritasUnited Democratic All.. @UDAKenya
352K Followers 73 Following Official Twitter handle for United Democratic Alliance Party (UDA), member of Kenya Kwanza Alliance Coalition.Trish @TrishBarasa
4K Followers 2K Following Mom | Wife | Daughter | Sister | Public Policy | Economics | Agriculture | Food Systems | Climate Change |Ben @Ben76179122
56 Followers 118 FollowingHassan Asuman @HassanAsuman1
913 Followers 2K Following Teacher by profession but with special interest in politics MP Aspirant- Kitui rural constituencyThe economy has rebounded, and the country is poised for better days. Economic experts such as @DavidNdii have played an important role in the economy's revival. #ThePlan
@AMAZlNGNATURE Dolphin owned her for a minute right there. 😹👍
It’s worth reminding ourselves periodically of Bertrand Russell’s appeal to his nation’s leaders, on 15 Aug 1914, on the eve of WW1: “The enemy are men like ourselves, neither better nor worse—men who love their homes and sunshine and all the simple pleasures of common life.”
🛒 | Carrefour Kenya [@CarrefourKe], via its owner Majid Al Futtaim, has responded to the CAK decision yesterday: "Majid Al Futtaim has full confidence in the fairness and integrity of our business practices and is appealing the Competition Authority’s decision"
🛒 | The Competition Authority of Kenya [@CAK_Kenya] has hit Carrefour [@CarrefourKe] with a hefty KES 1.1B fine for abusing buyer power. CAK has also ordered Carrefour to refund KES 16.7 Min unlawful rebates and must remove all contract clauses enabling such abuse.
@4low_Ke @MobiusMotors Mobius vs. Baic BJ50. You be the judge.
Why a CALM outlook strategy for H2 2023? Hear more from Manpreet Gill, our Chief Investment Officer, Africa & Middle East. Join Standard Chartered Priority Banking today. Email us on [email protected].
Kudinya ulidinya sikatai but at the end of the day alirudi kwa nani? She came back to me... ME!! Wewe endelea kulalia ngumi matako ya kunguni hii
Wee nilikudinyia dem ukakuja kulia kwa TL, mbwa
@DavidNdii And what of the 200 million the millers wanted
Harvard faculty list, 1954-55; my dad is on page 2 @HarvardEcon
@Rita_Oyier We age set, was in first year too 20yrs ago
@WilliamsRuto @rigathi @MusaliaMudavadi @DavidNdii Mtukufu Rais,you promised us to lower the cost of living,yes we appreciate the hustler funds but are you aware of the cost of electricity?Your CS incharge is very silent on energy matters till am wondering if he's conversant
@citizentvkenya WSR's kikuyu-kale absurdity syndrome.
How advocacy works in Kenya. 1. Identify an issue 2. Organise around the issue 3. Gain momentum and visibility 4. Make one small gain 5. Seek validation from the state 6. Coopted by a politician for social capital 7. Cause is diluted and leader goes into obscurity. 8. Repeat.
Baba Raila Odinga is back in the country and breathingFIRE: : "Why should people wake up to go queue and vote when Jose Camargo decides who will become president? We will also not allow the judiciary to become a dictator in this country. WAPI LIKES za baba Raila Amollo Odinga?
Sigalame anafanya biashara, lakini biashara anajua mwenyewe! @Kenyajudiciary @ahmednasirlaw @MzeeWaKupimaOil @kithurekindiki_ Well done 👏 ✔ Your place in Hustler Government is BOLD ! @NelsonHavi @NdindiiNyoro @DavidNdii @DrAlfredMutua
The voter turn out today reminded me of this.
The best way to fight the political class is to make them irrelevant. Relevance is the only weapon they have against us.
@SeweS_ I can give you 55 million reasons (in USD) why it will go ahead.
@waweru Mwalimu, sisi tulipanda kahawa. The only thing we did not plant ni pyrethrum na chai. Ngombe wa maziwa tumeweka hata Jersey cows. But if I say that loudly watu watasema ni Hekaya za Abunuwasi.
Looks like @WehliyeMohamed will be on one side and @DavidNdii on the other. As someone who respects them both & values them, I wish they were on the same side coz Kenya 🇰🇪 truly needs them. It’s their time to lead us. Hey @JimnahMbaru can we organise a goat meeting the 4 of us?