So many people on here have exactly one kind of analysis and they apply it to literally every situation regardless of whether it makes any sense or not
@notkavi I can’t tell if people really think the entire world is gonna be on fire and nobody will be on this earth by 2060
@biggestjoel @notkavi I don't think that's the case, but I do think most societies and governments will have collapsed by then. it's fucked up to tell kids they need to plan for the future when literally no one in authority is protecting that future
@idkboiiiiis @biggestjoel Under what assumption do you make that statement? Which climate models predict conditions that you think will lead to total social collapse?
@notkavi @biggestjoel I'm not just talking about climate, I'm talking about general trends toward authoritarianism, war, and (specifically in the US) paramilitary groups. but I'm pretty sure the countries that are going to be mostly or totally under water aren't going to just be fine
@idkboiiiiis @biggestjoel Every single one of those non climate related trends could have been projected out from like 1950 or 1980 — this idea that things are uniquely bad now requires some evidence beyond the fact that bad things are happening
@notkavi @biggestjoel what kind of evidence would you find convincing?
@idkboiiiiis @biggestjoel I think a comparison of the trends now to the trends in the past would be helpful. E.g., how is the current authoritarian movement in Brazil/USA different from past South American/US authoritarian movements