@kumatomoon @disclosetv @moxie @signalapp Signalapp hired the previous ceo of WhatsApp so signal will not be that secure anymore
@Qghoste @kumatomoon @disclosetv @moxie @signalapp Signal's security comes from the tech behind it. It doesn't depend on the people operating it. Signal distrusts everybody other than the people in the conversation including their employees. Those are the principles behind its encryption.
@burnt_disk @Qghoste @kumatomoon @disclosetv @moxie @signalapp lol and where is the source to that tech?
@tiersigma @Qghoste @kumatomoon @disclosetv @moxie @signalapp github.com/signalapp Explanation of double ratchet algorithm - signal.org/docs/specifica…
@burnt_disk @Qghoste @kumatomoon @disclosetv @moxie @signalapp lol anyone can say anything. ask them for the server source. THE WILL NOT GIVE IT! that is all that you need to know.
@tiersigma @Qghoste @kumatomoon @disclosetv @moxie @signalapp What ? They're kinda slow at updating it but source code of the server is open as well. Last commit 6 days ago and actively updated. It doesn't matter much though as you are free to distrust the server as 95% of the data passing through it is encrypted github.com/signalapp/Sign…
@burnt_disk @tiersigma @kumatomoon @disclosetv @moxie @signalapp So you believe that the data is not copied and decrypted
@Qghoste @burnt_disk @kumatomoon @disclosetv @moxie @signalapp nobody needs the data when they have all the Metadata. they fucking ask for your phone number lol. if they were serious that's the first nogo. believe what you want, I only trust data I encrypt myself and that's the only proper way and always has been. everyone else needing
@moxie @Qghoste @burnt_disk @kumatomoon source of servers. so I can host my own little signal network and have a look at everything. another topic but still warrants a reply to my question months ago about why the NSA funded you with millions. you did not reply but okay everyone's busy nowadays I get that. and Twitter.
@tiersigma @Qghoste @burnt_disk @kumatomoon You can: github.com/signalapp/Sign… Signal is a non-profit; it has no investors, much less nsa? I spent 10yrs building Signal that way. All value accrues into the hands of ppl who use it rather than the hands of shareholders (including myself!). Why do that other than the mission?
@moxie @Qghoste @burnt_disk @kumatomoon I cannot run it with my own signal? why is that? how does that prove the same source is running on the servers? why is a phone number needed, the single most identifying piece of data? neven threema.ch did a way better job there. bootstraped, not a 50 million invest.
@moxie @Qghoste @burnt_disk @kumatomoon opentech.fund/results/suppor… so what is the opentech.fund specifically? created by usagm.gov... anyways why not just allow federation once and for all to prove everything is as you say?
@moxie @tiersigma @Qghoste @burnt_disk @kumatomoon It's more about the encryption than what server or location.. and obviously multiple locations.. but if you're obviously right and they listen is it a bad thing?