@Qghoste @burnt_disk @kumatomoon @disclosetv @moxie @signalapp nobody needs the data when they have all the Metadata. they fucking ask for your phone number lol. if they were serious that's the first nogo. believe what you want, I only trust data I encrypt myself and that's the only proper way and always has been. everyone else needing
@moxie @Qghoste @burnt_disk @kumatomoon source of servers. so I can host my own little signal network and have a look at everything. another topic but still warrants a reply to my question months ago about why the NSA funded you with millions. you did not reply but okay everyone's busy nowadays I get that. and Twitter.
@tiersigma @Qghoste @burnt_disk @kumatomoon You can: github.com/signalapp/Sign… Signal is a non-profit; it has no investors, much less nsa? I spent 10yrs building Signal that way. All value accrues into the hands of ppl who use it rather than the hands of shareholders (including myself!). Why do that other than the mission?
@moxie @Qghoste @burnt_disk @kumatomoon opentech.fund/results/suppor… so what is the opentech.fund specifically? created by usagm.gov... anyways why not just allow federation once and for all to prove everything is as you say?
@tiersigma @Qghoste @burnt_disk @kumatomoon Used to support federation (!): signal.org/blog/cyanogen-… It didn’t work, and I don’t believe ever will. Some background: signal.org/blog/the-ecosy… Federation also has no direct relationship to privacy. It’s an ideology that no longer makes sense: youtu.be/Nj3YFprqAr8
@moxie @Qghoste @burnt_disk @kumatomoon yes it used too. I will watch the congress talk later, haven't seen that one yet. I don't mean the privacy implications of federation specifically but just the general ability to just do it. who cares about that when people don't have the ability to try it and build on it...
@moxie @Qghoste @burnt_disk @kumatomoon themselves. your belive, may it be right or wrong should in no way hamper the option for any user to try their own federation and at the same time easily prove what I am running on my server is something any signal client with a "server:" setting should be able to connect to.
@tiersigma @Qghoste @burnt_disk @kumatomoon The server is untrusted. The whole point is that it doesn’t matter what code is there, because it doesn’t have access to any data or significant metadata. It’s also OSS, so if you want to run your own, you can! And then you can federate it however you’d like. Go for it!
@moxie @Qghoste @burnt_disk @kumatomoon signal is x years old and I can't find the tiniest trace of anyone ever attempting to federate it or even just trying to run his own little lab server. or group server. . isn't that weird? I mean I can find that for like every other open source project with a grain of traction..
@tiersigma @Qghoste @burnt_disk @kumatomoon The app store is full of apps that are rebranded Signal running their own servers. There are literally hundreds of them bc it’s the ~easiest way to launch a chat app. I’ve already linked you to everything you need. There’s nothing stopping you. Maybe you just want to complain?
@moxie @Qghoste @burnt_disk @kumatomoon No absolutely not. I highly respect you and that is the main reason I can't understand why for me these things don't add up. I will research this again and try to run it like you said. And analyze the apks of these apps. Can you give me an example?