Alright for the next 24 hours, as an Ideological Turing Test, I'll be taking the pro-Web3 position! Throw me your best skeptical arguments and I'll do my best to respond from a place of enlightened optimism about crypto/blockchain/Web3. #OppositeDay
@liron As @moxie said, people don’t want to run servers. They’ll rely on centralized exchanges, hosting services for dApps and NFTs, etc to talk to any blockchain. So the supposed benefits of decentralization will never actually apply for most people. moxie.org/2022/01/07/web…
@glichfield @liron @moxie Here’s a refutation of @moxie’s claim:
@joshisledbetter @glichfield @liron The problem is rarely data portability (migrating from rackspace to aws), but community portability (moving from FB to anything else). I can build an OpenSea alternative easily, but it’s meaningless unless I convince everyone to use that API instead of OpenSea’s. Same as web2.
@moxie @glichfield @liron This isn’t really what I was arguing against. But okay, I would argue it’s not difficult to compete against open sea in specific niches. @ensvision is a good example of this.
@joshisledbetter @glichfield @liron @ensvision Unless they create an API that mediates everyone’s view of NFTs and then get everyone to switch to that from OS’s; doesn’t matter. Until then, if OS bans your NFT it disappears from everywhere, including your wallet. Fixing it requires getting everyone to switch. Same as web2
@moxie @glichfield @liron @ensvision Okay, I see. And I agree. However, this would be a pretty temporary issue. Like you said, you can easily create a competitor, and the switching costs are low. If my app suddenly lost some NFT collection that my users love, it might take me a day to add an new API call to get it.
@moxie @glichfield @liron @ensvision The fact that developers practically have unlimited second options is what differentiates this from web2. If you get shut out by Facebook, it’s game over. But again, opensea isn’t a real gate keeper. You can easily build your own gate, or use any other one.
@moxie @glichfield @liron @ensvision Also, while general purpose web3 apps will totally be a thing, which will suffer more from your issue (look at @zapper_fi), I think we’ll see a lot more content/community specific applications too. And so if Opensea does something shady, you’ll just switch to a new API.
@joshisledbetter @glichfield @liron @ensvision @zapper_fi “If Twitter does something shady, everyone will just switch to a new API.” The world doesn’t work like that. OpenSea banned my NFT in January, so why hasn’t everyone universally coordinated a switch to a new API yet?
@moxie @joshisledbetter @glichfield @ensvision @zapper_fi Yeah that's a good example of how real-world factors weigh up
@moxie @glichfield @liron @ensvision @zapper_fi If I built an NFT app/wallet where my users used your banned NFT, it would be wise of me (and easy) to switch from opensea. But yeah, in your specific case, if your wallet has no incentive to switch from opensea, they won’t. My point is if they have the incentive, they can.