Stephen Goldstein@stgoldstEvolutionary virology postdoc @ Univ of Utah. Previously Penn Medicine. Coronaviruses and the Wasatch. Salt Lake City, UT Joined March 2013
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These data should have been shared 3 years ago, when they were generated. And they should have been shared a year ago, when the Gao et al preprint came out. Continuing to withhold the data hinders expert analysis and critical multidisciplinary research. 43/
That is false. We had reached to collaborate; plus we had communicated to the Chinese team that we were *not* planning to publish a paper until theirs was published somewhere. I also found the allegation that we planned to publish the data generator's *data* perplexing. 33/
First, I was surprised, given the email above, and other correspondence, that a claim was apparently made by the data generator (CCDC) that we had not reached out to collaborate, and that we had communicated, "*only* their intent to publish the data generator’s data". 32/
Now I want to say a few things about the controversy regarding our analyzing these data and communicating our findings, and GISAID's approach to date.
First, here is an email I sent to Dr. Peipei Liu, at the CCDC, who was listed as the submitter of the metagenomic data.
@ProfessorPowder Been skied this year for sure!!
@gtuckerkellogg @coreyum @MJnanostretch @TheEthanIverson Also, we all would very much like to have *all* the metagenomic data associated with the market. No one is saying the work is done!
@MJnanostretch @TheEthanIverson @gtuckerkellogg What did I say about your antics in my replies?
Brian Wasik @BrianRWasik20 hours ago
It is now clear that 'Lab leak' is becoming a rhetorical Hydra. Rather than becoming more clear and tied to policy solutions, the term is flat and nebulous to consume nearly every aspect of biological research, husbandry, manufacturing, agriculture.
@cmmorel Absolutely agree with you
@cmmorel And it holds up I think
@gtuckerkellogg @MJnanostretch MJ, don’t make me block you for jumping into my replies with spit-flecked invective. We’re getting very close…
@wanderer_jasnah @gtuckerkellogg I mean you see them literally tweeting Gao’s quote about us today. So if China says it’s not market that’s accepted as true, but they say not lab and it’s a lie. It’s ridiculous, not to be taken seriously.
@gtuckerkellogg Makes you wonder
Dr. Alice C Hughes @AliceCHughes6 days ago
Did you take swabs, from the beige mane round the face that looks more like it may be a raccoon dog than a raccoon, which really should not be there-I screenshot it where you can see the profile more (and they are physically similar) twitter.com/BatResearch/st…
@BioProfBarker Wow thank you!!!
Dr. Brianne Barker @BioProfBarker2 days ago
The Zenodo report on viral origins hints at disagreements with GISAID, but I didn’t realize how problematic GISAID had been until I read this thread. I support these scientist and their interesting and informative report and think this is very uncool of GISAID. twitter.com/angie_rasmusse…
Zhihua Chen @zhihuachen2 days ago
The mystery of the Q samples.
So China CDC got these environmental samples, found them sars-cov-2 positive, described them in table 1 of their preprint, but for whatever reason decided not to include them in their origin …
Bill Hanage @BillHanage2 days ago
An interesting read. Worth noting that extreme delays in data sharing are the reason behind this particular mess. All ways out of it involve more data sharing, and promptly twitter.com/amymaxmen/stat…
Amy Maxmen @amymaxmen2 days ago
If you're just catching up, I try to briefly explain the situation in my piece. washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/…
Worth knowing that the researchers who posted Monday's report offered to collaborate w/Chinese scientists long before they went public.
That's when things got messy.
@levine2001 @NUMTyDumpty @TylerAStepke @BiosafetyNow Woof still doing this are we?
Jeremy Kamil, @macroliter : same handle elsewhere @macroliter2 days ago
Pretty wild to note (as others already have) that the original SARS coronavirus also emerged in Autumn (November) at a wet market where wild animals were sold for food. Perhaps that’s like a reasonable clue, or something? #OriginOfCovid twitter.com/world_epidemic…
@levine2001 @NUMTyDumpty @TylerAStepke @BiosafetyNow You don’t even know me!
@levine2001 @NUMTyDumpty @TylerAStepke @BiosafetyNow I can see how that would be frustrating
@levine2001 @NUMTyDumpty @TylerAStepke @BiosafetyNow Well I hope you feel fulfilled then.
@levine2001 @NUMTyDumpty @TylerAStepke @BiosafetyNow I feel like you already felt that way a few tweets ago lol what are we doing here?
@levine2001 @NUMTyDumpty @TylerAStepke @BiosafetyNow My analysis here zenodo.org/record/7754299