These data should have been shared 3 years ago, when they were generated. And they should have been shared a year ago, when the Gao et al preprint came out. Continuing to withhold the data hinders expert analysis and critical multidisciplinary research. 43/

That is false. We had reached to collaborate; plus we had communicated to the Chinese team that we were *not* planning to publish a paper until theirs was published somewhere. I also found the allegation that we planned to publish the data generator's *data* perplexing. 33/

First, I was surprised, given the email above, and other correspondence, that a claim was apparently made by the data generator (CCDC) that we had not reached out to collaborate, and that we had communicated, "*only* their intent to publish the data generator’s data". 32/

Now I want to say a few things about the controversy regarding our analyzing these data and communicating our findings, and GISAID's approach to date. First, here is an email I sent to Dr. Peipei Liu, at the CCDC, who was listed as the submitter of the metagenomic data. 30/

Lmao March 26

@ProfessorPowder Been skied this year for sure!!

@gtuckerkellogg @coreyum @MJnanostretch @TheEthanIverson Also, we all would very much like to have *all* the metagenomic data associated with the market. No one is saying the work is done!

@MJnanostretch @gtuckerkellogg @TheEthanIverson Bye MJ…

@MJnanostretch @TheEthanIverson @gtuckerkellogg What did I say about your antics in my replies?

It is now clear that 'Lab leak' is becoming a rhetorical Hydra. Rather than becoming more clear and tied to policy solutions, the term is flat and nebulous to consume nearly every aspect of biological research, husbandry, manufacturing, agriculture.

@cmmorel Absolutely agree with you

@cmmorel And it holds up I think

@gtuckerkellogg @MJnanostretch MJ, don’t make me block you for jumping into my replies with spit-flecked invective. We’re getting very close…

@wanderer_jasnah @gtuckerkellogg Yup.

@wanderer_jasnah @gtuckerkellogg I mean you see them literally tweeting Gao’s quote about us today. So if China says it’s not market that’s accepted as true, but they say not lab and it’s a lie. It’s ridiculous, not to be taken seriously.

@gtuckerkellogg Makes you wonder

@AliceCHughes Wow!

Did you take swabs, from the beige mane round the face that looks more like it may be a raccoon dog than a raccoon, which really should not be there-I screenshot it where you can see the profile more (and they are physically similar) twitter.com/BatResearch/st…

@BioProfBarker Wow thank you!!!

The Zenodo report on viral origins hints at disagreements with GISAID, but I didn’t realize how problematic GISAID had been until I read this thread. I support these scientist and their interesting and informative report and think this is very uncool of GISAID. twitter.com/angie_rasmusse…

The mystery of the Q samples. So China CDC got these environmental samples, found them sars-cov-2 positive, described them in table 1 of their preprint, but for whatever reason decided not to include them in their origin … assets.researchsquare.com/files/rs-13703…

An interesting read. Worth noting that extreme delays in data sharing are the reason behind this particular mess. All ways out of it involve more data sharing, and promptly twitter.com/amymaxmen/stat…

If you're just catching up, I try to briefly explain the situation in my piece. washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/… Worth knowing that the researchers who posted Monday's report offered to collaborate w/Chinese scientists long before they went public. That's when things got messy.

@levine2001 @NUMTyDumpty @TylerAStepke @BiosafetyNow Woof still doing this are we?

Pretty wild to note (as others already have) that the original SARS coronavirus also emerged in Autumn (November) at a wet market where wild animals were sold for food. Perhaps that’s like a reasonable clue, or something? #OriginOfCovid twitter.com/world_epidemic…

@levine2001 @NUMTyDumpty @TylerAStepke @BiosafetyNow You don’t even know me!

@levine2001 @NUMTyDumpty @TylerAStepke @BiosafetyNow I can see how that would be frustrating

@levine2001 @NUMTyDumpty @TylerAStepke @BiosafetyNow Well I hope you feel fulfilled then.

@levine2001 @NUMTyDumpty @TylerAStepke @BiosafetyNow I feel like you already felt that way a few tweets ago lol what are we doing here?

@levine2001 @NUMTyDumpty @TylerAStepke @BiosafetyNow My analysis here zenodo.org/record/7754299