To anyone new to LADS: before spending your money on this game, take a moment to look into the fandom’s history. From harassing artists to toxic fans who would rather bully people online than celebrate their own favorite character’s birthday, there’s a lot you should know before getting involved.
And that’s not even mentioning the racism, animal abuse, and mockery directed at people affected by war.
Think twice before giving your money to LADS.
#NoValkoNoMoney#LoveandDeepspace#BoycottInfold#NoValkoNoTrust
Love and Deepspace | New Promise
New Promise Coming Soon!
Complete tasks to get brand-new 4-Star Memories, [Caleb: Glistening Intent] and [Xavier: Favored Exception]. Besides, special-colored Accessories await!
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For some reason, it's specifically the Xavier mains among the antis who love to accuse Valkyries of sabotaging their project. Meanwhile, everyone conveniently forgets that long before Valko, OG5 fans were constantly sabotaging each other's events. But this time, all the evidence was collected before they had a chance to delete it and pin the blame on us. Please help spread the word about this slander.
#UncancelValko#WorldLovesValko#NoValkoNoMoney#ReinstateValkoNow
Believe me, this whole situation is incredibly sad. You can think whatever you want about us, but I’m genuinely heartbroken whenever a project dedicated to the boys gets cancelled, because an enormous amount of human effort goes into making these projects happen.
I can’t just
I've brought Sensor Tower data — the final revenue for the new multi-banner A Night That Never Ends.
To be honest, the result surprised me quite a bit. The new multi had the advantage of more days, a ×2 top-up reset, top-up event, purchasable outfits from solo cards... and even so, it barely edged past the early multi-banners with three LIs. And it still couldn't beat the spicy trio multi.
As for the gap with the other banners that had the same reset there's nothing even to say.
Feel free to use these images and data if you'd like — that's exactly why I'm posting them here.
This isn't just an unlucky banner. It's the consequence of Infold not listening to its players and pretending everything is fine. Nothing is fine. People and money won't come back out of fatigue — we're still refusing to pay any attention to your @Love_Deepspace games and merch until you start fixing the game's problems and finally notice your players.
#UncancelValko#WorldLovesValko#NoValkoNoMoney#LoveandDeepspace
I loved Love and Deepspace. For almost two years, I gave this game my time, money, trust, and genuine affection. I recommended it to friends, bought merchandise, and believed in its future.
Infold taught us to see these characters as living, breathing people and their world as a safe place. That wasn’t something I invented. It was part of what they sold us.
And then Valko happened.
I was devastated. I cried constantly for the first two months. I cried for Valko, for the people who created him, and for the girls who were put through absolute hell. Sometimes I still cry about it. I genuinely couldn’t believe Infold was capable of treating its own creation and its audience this way.
And the removal itself was only part of the nightmare.
The bullying, xenophobia, harassment, vicious rumors, and cruelty surrounding this conflict have been horrifying. I’ve since realized that much of this toxicity existed long before Valko. I just hadn’t seen how deep it went until everything exploded.
I understand that Infold cannot protect every individual player from harassment. But they have moderation tools. They have the power to enforce rules, address serious problems, and make their community safer. Instead, what I’ve witnessed is silence, inconsistent enforcement, and a disturbing lack of accountability.
Months later, people are still being targeted. And we’re still waiting for meaningful answers.
This has affected me far beyond the game. I’ve put my Chinese studies on hold. I can’t bring myself to read the lore or character stories people share online, even though I still love these characters. Returning to that fictional world now feels like walking into a place soaked in pain and poison.
I used to be excited about Infold’s future projects. Now I can’t imagine trusting another one of their games with my money or emotional investment.
And no, I can’t simply pretend everything is fine and talk only about how much I love Valko. I do love him. I want him back as a fully realized sixth love interest. But I also want Infold to take responsibility, address the harm, establish meaningful moderation, and stop treating its audience’s concerns as something that can be ignored indefinitely.
I’m not asking for miracles. I’m asking a multimillion-dollar company to take responsibility for its decisions and the community surrounding its product.
I still care. That’s precisely why this hurts so fucking much.
I want things to get better. I want to believe this can still be fixed. But trust doesn’t come back because a company waits long enough for people to get tired of asking questions.
@Love_Deepspace didn’t just remove a character. They destroyed something I once felt safe loving.
And I refuse to pretend that didn’t happen.
#LADSYouLostUs#BringBackValko#NoValkoNoMoney
Source: Threads-ameshimo_awoooooo
💸流水對比 Revenue Comparison💸
整理了開服以來所有混池的流水
整體來說這次就是最差的了,甚至比不上剛開服時的營收🤣
(數據在10月10日取自App Magic)
Compiled a list of all the multis since LADS started
Overall it’s the worst, can’t even beat the revenue when it just opened to public🤣
(Data retrieved from App Magic on Oct 10)
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Hi! I haven't disappeared a lot of things piled up IRL that needed my attention, and I'd already been ignoring them for far too long; on top of that, I needed a little time to catch my breath. Today I've brought Sensor Tower data for all of Xavier's birthday banners, plus a comparison of the birthdays with all the other guys.
To my surprise, unlike Rafayel and Zayne, Xavier's banner went down in its second year rather than up. I'm afraid to imagine what this year will look like, but it's entirely PPG's fault, and the fault of their actions, that the other guys are now getting less revenue and attention.
As for the files, there's nothing to say: before Xavier's update it was dead silent. Now they've just added the files for his banner, but there's nothing interesting there. Valko hasn't shown up.
With the new multi I also found a trace of the Misty Invasion banner, so presumably we can expect it. But for now I see no point in expecting anything from PPG regarding Valko before the end of Xavier's birthday, or even before Sylus's branch.
#BringValkoBack#BoycottInfold#NoValkoNoTrust#NoValkoNoMoney
Every time Gacha Revenue data comes out, people start losing heart and panicking. I'm here to clear up the doubts.
1) Gacha Revenue inflates the Chinese figure with a ×1.75 multiplier to account for Chinese Android, which has no Google Play Store the way Global does. The site does this for every game, without taking unique cases into account. LADS is a unique case, because in China people compete over whose LI has earned more. We've seen for ourselves how Chinese girls look for iPhones specifically so they can spend through them and make the figure visible. That doesn't mean nobody buys anything on Android. It means the figure is artificially inflated, and that has to be kept in mind when you look at it.
2) You shouldn't look at a single figure on its own, but in comparison. Compared to other multis, their result is terrible and embarrassing. This isn't a comeback - it's a fart in a puddle.
Now, so I don't get too wordy, here are some examples.
Screenshot one: June - the boycott hadn't hit that month or its banners yet. What was running: Caleb: Your Skyblue and reruns of two old birthday cards, No-Return Night + Up Close; the Entwined Shadows multi rerun; the Once Upon a Frame multi; the Rafayel: Private Trip rerun.
Screenshot two: September caught Zayne's birthday from its second day (the first fell in August) + a rerun of 2 of his old birthday cards, a rerun of Sylus's myth Silverwing Fiend, and the new multi A Night That Never Ends, which came with: a) a ×2 top-up reset, b) outfits and an accessory, c) a top-up event, d) outfits from the solo banners added to the shops.
And they barely scraped together 19 million.
I understand you want them to hit rock bottom and make less than 10 million, but a decline can't happen that sharply and that fast. Besides, they literally threw in everything they could just to reach AT LEAST these results. They won't be able to keep doing this, and the decline will relentlessly follow them. Of course, if any of you have been spending - this is a reason to stop, especially if you're part of the boycott. But players won't be able to sustain numbers like these on an ongoing basis.
Companies want to grow, while they're fighting desperately just to stay afloat. That's not a good result - it's a terrible result.
So please, keep your common sense and don't panic over big numbers - look at the situation as a whole🐺
#NoValkoNoMoney#Reject5LiMulti#NoValkoNoLogin#ValkoWasPromised
Продолжим эстафету добра в честь Валко?
dariedu.ru помогает обеспечивать продуктами одиноких пожилых людей, которым необходима поддержка.
Пусть Валко, который нас объединил, продолжает нести в мир добро и любовь, которые он и сам заслуживает.
#100DaysWithValko
Here's the Sensor Tower data for you.
September 22 - October 10, 2026. The first multi-banner to run entirely after Valko's cancellation. The data covers three days out of nineteen.
Everyone can draw their own conclusions, but I'll answer what's probably the most common question the one that's causing people to panic.
"Is the boycott collapsing??"
!!! A big number is not the same as a good result. !!!
Yes, $2.2M on the first day looks impressive. But the exact same kind of banner in July 2025 - the same five, the same 19 days, the same ×2 reset - made $3.95M on its first day. That's 43% less now.
This is the worst multi-banner launch in the game's entire history. It's even lower than February's, which ran with no discounts at all - while this time, for the first time ever, they switched everything on at once: the ×2 reset, outfits, and a top-up event that had never been run before.
Imagine a store that holds a sale bigger than any it's ever had and takes in less than it did on an ordinary day six months ago.
And one more thing: the money ran out faster than usual. By day three, revenue had dropped by 67%, compared to the usual 44%. People grabbed the discount once and left.
#Reject5LiMulti#SkipTheBanquet#NoValkoNoMoney#LoveAndDeepspace
Letters for Valko may not have named a specific reason for two reasons: they themselves weren't told which tag it was about and just got a brush-off; at the same time, they may not have wanted a witch hunt to start. But that's exactly what started, which is incredibly sad.
This habit of blocking everyone because you see enemies/bots/antis in everyone, that was exactly the danger of the conspiracy theories about competitors. Who the hell doesn't have competitors? Competitors aren't holding the company hostage so that it can't answer us for three months. But now the entire boycott is in a vacuum. Great job.
#Reject5LiMulti#SkipTheBanquet#NoValkoNoMoney#NoValkoNoLogin
The Valko NYC billboard team did an amazing job. But I think the vague letter and the lack of a clear explanation of what actually happened had a terrible effect.
Just when the hashtag started gaining traction again and there was finally a chance to put real reputational
People are starting to forget what this boycott was about in the first place. What happened is a terrible blow for all of us, and I'm truly sorry for the organizers of the New York billboards. I can only imagine how painful it is when something like this happens.
Stop the witch hunts. It doesn't matter who they're aimed at. Political wording instantly pushes a dispute about a game into territory where it becomes a risk for all of us and most of all for our Chinese sisters. Mistakes can happen on any side, and the answer is to talk them through, not to turn on each other. That's a lesson for everyone, not a chance to prove which side was right from the start. While we argue about who's to blame, PPG is calmly posting merch, as if they don't care about their own reputation at all.
Don't go after each other. Even if you disagree with someone's decisions, harassment, insults, and threats are never okay. Behind every account in this boycott is a person with feelings. Mass-reporting people who are in the boycott with you just because you disagree with them is wrong too.
And for the love of everything, please stop dragging other games and companies into our boycott just because they have some minor connection to Tencent. That's the same kind of smear campaign, just aimed at someone else and it turns other fandoms against us. People who might have supported us because of the precedent of a cancelled character now see us as a bunch of lunatics. As a former League of Legends player: Kayn and his HEARTSTEEL skin existed long before LADS came out. The only thing they changed was his hair. But plenty of people have already said this before me.
So take a break, breathe, and come back rested and ready.
#NoValkoNoMoney#NoValkoNoLogin#Reject5LiMulti#SkipTheBanquet
Infold built a beautiful fantasy and then deliberately tore it apart for thousands of players around the world.
Instead of taking responsibility and addressing the damage they caused like a mature company, they chose cowardice: bury their heads in the sand, ignore their players, and pretend nothing happened.
Now they’re desperately trying to squeeze every last cent out of the audience they have left, throwing random bullshit at players and expecting them to keep paying as if trust, loyalty, and enjoyment can simply be replaced with another shiny banner.
You destroyed what made people love this game, destroyed the trust you spent years building, and then had the audacity to act like the only problem is getting players to open their wallets again.
Cowards. Shameless profiteers. An absolute disgrace.
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Well, there was hope and there was a chance, but Infold apparently doesn't like using them - same as their own head.
In short, I'm not going to condemn anyone or stop people from filing complaints against this company, as long as it stays within the law - you have every right to it as a customer who has been deceived and ignored. Their attitude toward Global is simply unbelievably disgusting, and honestly, with an attitude like that, you want to wish them to take it and get out of here.
On my end, if you're planning to leave the boycott, then before you do, I suggest telling the truth about this game and its developer under the main LADS tags (# LoveandDeepspace and # lads). But be careful, after this, a lot of antis may flood your posts. Do it periodically, so that new players are warned before they end up inside this trap.
For myself, I've decided I'm staying in the boycott, maybe not as actively, but if I can, I'll keep crunching numbers and watching other things for you. Still, I need to put my personal life front and center. To those who are leaving for good - I understand and support your choice. We've all already given far too much time to a company that doesn't deserve even a week of it.
I want to wish every Valkyrie strength - take care of your health and do things that make you happy.
I'm sorry that my favorite characters ended up in the hands of a company of disgraces, but I'm not coming back. Even with Valko, they'll have to work hard to win us all back.
#NoValkoNoLogin#NoValkoNoMoney#ValkoWasPromised#ReinstateValkoNow
I'm going to comment on a few things. I'm skeptical about the appearance of PPG's legal affairs account on WeChat and what's written there. Those aren't actions, they're the same kind of words we got on the 27th (the first official letter) and the 29th (the letter with the seal).
The existence of such an account is NOT a bad thing in itself. But until it's backed by action against the people who were actually spreading slander about their own character, their own game, and harassing those who defended and are fighting for the integrity of THEIR own game - it's all empty words.
But here's what troubles me:
We got the first event that Valko was supposed to be in. His dialogue was there. You could add the anecdote event here too, but that one is less critical because of the item itself, which can be sent to us through the in-game mail.
We got an event with a call in which Valko, surprisingly, is also absent.
And I wouldn't be too upset about it, because recording something new while they're supposedly "preparing Valko's release" seems normal, but when do you think these calls usually appear?
The answer: around major events. They come right alongside the calls. I've already checked this, and if you don't believe me, see for yourself:
1) Call on 26 Jul 2024 - x.com/Love_Deepspace… > followed by the Misty Invasion multi announcement on 3 Aug 2024 - x.com/Love_Deepspace…
2) Witnessed By Deepspace multi announcement on 27 Jun 2025 - x.com/Love_Deepspace… > followed by a call on 28 Jun 2025 - x.com/Love_Deepspace…
3) Mortality's Tenderness multi announcement on 4 Feb 2026 - x.com/Love_Deepspace… > followed by a call on 11 Feb 2026 - x.com/Love_Deepspace…
The only time it went differently: Caleb's announcement came first, on 10 Jan 2025 - x.com/Love_Deepspace… > and only after that, on 19 Jan 2025, came the call - x.com/Love_Deepspace…
But even in that case, it was given AFTER the character's debut, because if you're about to release a character, why would you push ahead with events he could be present in and that could give your players content?
I'm not saying everything is bad. Just don't let PPG fool you with signs and gestures. Until that gesture is a direct dialogue with us, and until Valko is returned to us, the boycott continues. And we still will not accept an OG5 multi.
P.S. Is it possible they've finally started some kind of activity because Valkyries in China have begun deleting their accounts en masse? There's even a separate tag for it on XHS: # 卸与销号
The longer you drag this out, the more people leave and it's time you started listening to your audience @Love_Deepspace#NoValkoNoLogin#Reject5LiMulti#ValkoWasPromised#ReinstateValkoNow
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This is a fairly important post. I'm doing a breakdown of the new event, because there's a lot to talk about here. How you take it is up to you.
Yes, those sachets - I knew about them back in Zayne's patch, and I assumed they'd bring this event out alongside the new multi-banner in September, because my hypothesis was that the multi itself had been moved from Qixi to September. The event falls into the same category, so they'd go out as a pair, the way it usually works. Even if that doesn't seem entirely fitting at first glance. But what I saw today? That's a warning sign, I'll say that upfront.
The section was added to the client in full during Zayne's patch. On 30.08 - 344 entries all at once, zero before that. The only change in two weeks is one added icon, icon_06, in patch 1553; what it depicts can't be verified, since the file isn't in the client.
The sets are built for five, perfectly symmetrical. 44 entries each: three sachet bases, patterns in three render variants, portraits, chibi heads. The numbering scheme is identical for all of them down to the last digit. For Valko - zero across all seven positions.
The event mechanic is sewing sachets, which we already saw in the trailer. And in that same patch, the chibi scene Loop_Idle_Sew_01 - sewing - appeared for the first time. Before 28.08 it didn't exist for anyone. It was later added for all seven (the six boys and MC), including QXL.
In Valko's chibi layer there are two scenes total, across all time. A standard idle and sewing. Nothing else. Everyone else has 30-45 scenes; the heroine has around forty. Half of everything he has in the chibi layer is an animation tied to the mechanic of an event he isn't in.
If anyone doubts this, you can check these files yourself, I've given the names in the photo.
Now my analysis. This is a hypothesis, not data.
He was cancelled, so emptiness in the files isn't news - we already know his assets were stripped out and only integrations were left. What matters isn't what's missing, it's what survived. And what survived is the sewing animation, tied to the mechanic of this exact event, for a character who has nothing else left.
And here's what I think happens next. There hasn't been a OG5 multi-banner in a long time - not a single new one in three months, only reruns. It's the most visible format there is: the absence of a sixth is noticed instantly and by everyone at once. An event mechanic built for five is quieter. You can ship it, keep your content schedule intact, and see what happens.
I think this is a test of how the first event where he's simply absent goes, with nobody saying it out loud. Yes, we'll draw him in and add him ourselves, the way we have many times. But that won't make the noise a multi would - the noise there should be right now. If it passes quietly, Infold's next step will be bigger. Notice the pattern: first they gave us a branch, which frankly is survivable, and we comfort ourselves with the thought that the story text doesn't have to be changed, it can be delivered as is, and Valko can be added later as though he were part of that story with no content lost. Today they gave us an event he SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN. And people calmly exhale: "Well, it's not a multi-banner! This is a good sign!"
And that's how we get to the point where even a multi without Valko is just a "necessity, so that later he can be released without trouble, just a bit later". Because competitors. Because sentiment in China is somehow off. NO. This will go on forever, until most of us leave the boycott or return to the game and start spending again. Have the antis calmed down in this time? They'll sit exactly as we do, so what public calming are we even talking about? Or maybe Infold is waiting for us to go quiet, don't you think? We haven't gotten a single letter or explanation. Valko's materials were removed far too early, and there's still no sign of his debut. None of this is being done to release Valko; it's being done so they can go back to earning quietly without that reminder of their disgrace.
So we can't sit around feeding on hopium right now. They'll keep feeding it to us, and the accounts that are still playing and actively spending will keep feeding it to you too, talking about competition. Competition exists everywhere! Without competition games don't develop (a Genshin moment). Even if competitors did wreck things for them, that doesn't justify ignoring and staying silent toward the audience that has been feeding them all this time.
This has been dragging on since July 9. If at first it might have looked like they were genuinely being careful and delaying in order to think through how to bring Valko back, we're now in the third month of the boycott. And out of everything they do, all they're doing is trying to make money and satisfy the antis. The antis, who did this to their own business.
They're waiting for us to get tired and go quiet, so they can lure back the ones who are already wavering. You can keep sitting and believing, of course - they'll bring him back later. Or maybe not. It's calmer for them, scandal-free, to keep the five. And if they do bring back a sixth, they'll do it as a favor to us, not as their obligation or because their game starts to stagnate, since every new guy (Sylus and Caleb) boosted the game, made it more popular, expanded the global market once China had already hit its ceiling, and they'll simply be left with no choice but to pull him out. And there's no guarantee his cards won't come out less often or at lower quality. Infold has already started pushing OG5 in small steps, and they'll only reinforce it further.
What does this mean for us? We need to get more active: louder, push the tags, flood them with letters even harder, stop being sweet and understanding with them. Are they concerned about our wellbeing? We have the right to be angry, within reason - at the very least to tell them how wrong they are to think we'll just let this go and swallow it. Most important: uninstall the game with every action of theirs where Valko is absent. We already aren't spending money, so the only way left to make it clear we're unhappy and won't accept this is uninstalling the game.
I'd be happy to be wrong, but as always, I'm only saying what I see in the data.
#NoValkoNoLogin#Reject5LiMulti#ValkoWasPromised#ReinstateValkoNow
So, my new research is ready. You can read it here:
releasevalko.com/#en/data/boyco…
Here I will repeat my conclusions from there.
The boycott is working. Those who claim otherwise either are not looking at the numbers or do not want to admit them.
The fall shows how much the audience disagrees with the cancellation not of a character alone, but of a whole layer of lore that was shown to us and then taken away because of a handful of malcontents. Without our part of the fandom, that handful cannot keep the company’s earnings at their former level.
Meanwhile the company still ignores its audience: it pretends nothing is happening and tries to sit the crisis out. That is exactly why no one should go back and spend, not until Valko is in the game and they address their audience directly.
They do have financial reserves. However painful the fall looks on the charts, they are able to live through it for a long time — not a couple of months, but years. All that time they will be trying to hook those who still play but do not pay. The OG5 multi is one such hook.
The answer to it must be a full blackout of the game. Otherwise they will not understand that this is not temporary.
#NoValkoNoLogin#Reject5LiMulti#ValkoWasPromised#ReinstateValkoNow
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