All Indians asking why India didn't build Deepseek must be living in Delusion. We didn't build a Google We hardly built global products except a few like Zoho, Freshworks, Postman Most of us study only for campus placements not for the joy of studying. Forget, Deepseek, we should first build a GPT wrapper and make it big!
I have been making AI related videos for few years, Indian viewership is soo tiny. The projects our university students do are mostly broken. Even my colleagues who are with a decade of work experience and Masters didn't even care about LLMs until a few months ago! Bottomline: no surprise, india didn't build deepseek!
@1littlecoder We've build the largest pool of cracked developers that powers all else. That in itself is commendable. Foundational models and global scale products would come soon. As the economy and funding market matures. Check back again in a few years?
@1littlecoder the real innovation starts when we stop worshipping job security and start worshipping curiosity
@1littlecoder Yes. Such an opportunity loss. Real sad state of things with job seeking mentality 😞😞
@1littlecoder @Jay_sharings can you kindly share your opinion
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@1littlecoder Read about Liang Wenfeng, the Chinese entrepreneur behind DeepSeek
@1littlecoder Read about Liang Wenfeng, the Chinese entrepreneur behind DeepSeek
@1littlecoder I think Bhavish shipped a GPT wrapper......
@1littlecoder We failed Indic products like hike, koo. They may not be the best products but china embraced their products than their competitors. What's purpose of building another deepseek only to see it fail brutally after it lose hype
@1littlecoder But at least you guys, India, produce many good CEOs for Silicon Valley, like Sundar Pichai, Satya Nadella, etc. Indonesia has nothing. 🫡
I understand the frustration behind the sentiment that India hasn't produced a tech giant, but I believe the situation is more nuanced than just a lack of ambition or innovation. The focus on campus placements is more about economic necessity of the students and their family stability rather than a lack of desire for innovation. Building something like DeepSeek isn't just about resources - it's also about timing, market readiness, and global tech trends. India's tech ecosystem is evolving, with a growing emphasis on AI and machine learning, evidenced by the increasing number of start-ups and investments in this sector. Instead of complaining on what hasn't been built, perhaps we should celebrate and build upon the strengths we have, like our talent pool and entrepreneurial spirit. A deeper cultural shift towards valuing innovation over immediate job security could take time, but it's happening. Encouraging a balance where education fosters both employability and creativity is the way forward.
@1littlecoder No one wants to invest. Astrotalk jaise startup mein they will invest fortune but a startup building a LLM that has benchmark results, usko they just show middle finger. We built a LLM but 0 support. Results to back the benchmark results - maruthlabs.com/madhuram
@1littlecoder One step at a time. Gain resources and then take a moonshot.
I don't get this question, they wanted an OAI killer to come from India.. like do they understand how unlikely that is no doubt China goes out of its way to make this happen for as many people as possible.. they value STEM so they make sure tons of people can get that education India values STEM eduction so it makes sure only a limited people get the 'good eduction' They scale the education, we scale the filtering
When Modi first became BJP's candidate for PMship he made many speeches on being pro-technology. 11 years down we know he has no tab on the evolving tech landscape. His FM comes every budget to tweak a few numbers here and there without any transparent audit and then goes into hiding. She will do the same this Saturday. The man is just a motormouth and has no strategic mission mode project ongoing on the ground. Typical Bheemta state that will later shift the blame on Hindus.
@1littlecoder We have not yet built a AAA game, that is where all the GPU knowledge comes from, graphics was the birth of nvidia. First learning core math and physics and then making a AAA game with a custom game engine will make everyone learn the graphics pipeline.
@1littlecoder Here your answer: student seek 'CTC' and for dhandomaxxer industrialist it's 'ROI' without any risk.
@1littlecoder Most of us build stuff just to be seen, noticed. We, mostly, aren't making things for long term vision.
“Most of us study only for campus placements” will not play well with the number of Indians who stuff the deep tech stuff in US, from University research to research in top companies Indians are at the top everywhere. In fact 2 of the writers of the seminal paper which led to the AI breakthrough (Attention is all you need) were Indians
@1littlecoder Every day self loathing tweet dropped. 1) someone made a big GPT wrapper and sold it 2) someone did build a Google Google over ran them. I see you're new to the internet.
People in India not only fail to build anything competitive but also hinder those trying, leading them to give up or leave Forget cheerleading; the schadenfreude mentality is ubiquitous and holding us back India doesn't have an economic problem; it has cultural problems. We need an urgent cultural revolution to heal generational trauma. Watching the energy of millions of young people go to waste breaks my heart Virtue signaling in our society is off, and while a right-leaning majoritarian government is good for us, the virtues within pockets of that majority sometimes scare me
"We are always be looking for quick fixes and fast ways to make money by plugging holes and finding the smallest pain points - the lowest hanging fruit. While the bigger picture does not matters, if these strategies are in our DNA, this is the result we get. Nevertheless, we still have a definite role to play service as agents
"We are always be looking for quick fixes and fast ways to make money by plugging holes and finding the smallest pain points - the lowest hanging fruit. While the bigger picture does not matters, if these strategies are in our DNA, this is the result we get. Nevertheless, we still have a definite role to play service as agents
@1littlecoder Sooo you are Indian? Name every Indian god. 🙃 On a more serious note, though, I don't believe you're doing justice to your people. Americans didn't build Deepseek either and they've got all the funding and talent they possibly could have and more. The race has only just begun.
@1littlecoder One step at a time. I think your first goal should be to manufacture more goods than China. 2nd goal is better tech industry than USA. Both are doable they century!
@1littlecoder 💯 Agree. If you're building a deep tech startup, getting funding is insanely hard. Investors don’t wanna touch R&D-heavy stuff.
