Sure let's game this out: a person who can't consent comes to the ER. Who gives consent for the healthcare? The person's family. An "unborn child" who obviously can't consent comes to the ER. Who gives consent for the healthcare? The person carrying it. Healthcare for the "unborn child" flows through the pregnant person. It's not that complicated. I know what you're trying to do. You're trying to do what all conservatives are trying to do right now which is rewrite the statute to treat the person carrying the "unborn child" as a separate patient from the "unborn child" itself. EMTALA doesn't work that way. Hope this helps. ✌🏾
Sure let's game this out: a person who can't consent comes to the ER. Who gives consent for the healthcare? The person's family. An "unborn child" who obviously can't consent comes to the ER. Who gives consent for the healthcare? The person carrying it. Healthcare for the "unborn child" flows through the pregnant person. It's not that complicated. I know what you're trying to do. You're trying to do what all conservatives are trying to do right now which is rewrite the statute to treat the person carrying the "unborn child" as a separate patient from the "unborn child" itself. EMTALA doesn't work that way. Hope this helps. ✌🏾
In all fairness, though the Supreme Court is going to rewrite the statute so it does work the way this person wants it to. That's the fun part about having a completely lawless Supreme Court. Anybody listening to those arguments or reading the transcript couldn't possibly disagree with SG Elizabeth Prelogar. It's not even a close question. What the Idaho AG argued literally upends federalism as we know it but whatever. Nothing matters
@AngryBlackLady Let’s try this instead. In deciding whether abortion is generally moral or immoral, appeal to the EMTALA is silly. Congress decides what is legal; it does not decide what is moral - otherwiseee you’d have to conclude that since race-based slavery was legal it was therefore moral
@AngryBlackLady It is obviously false that the person's family *always* gives consent for treatment. In many cases, nobody consents.
@AngryBlackLady If the baby is separate, it’s ok to remove it. Right?
@AngryBlackLady It’s so much more complicated than that. I went to the ER with a possible burst appendix and before they diagnosed and recommended surgery I was so dosed with morphine that consent was not legally possible.
@AngryBlackLady No one else is legally obligated to share their spare tissues or organs to ensure anyone’s healthcare. To single out pregnant persons for such a legal mandate is anti-equality. Why do anti-abortion people think pregnant persons ought to be?
@AngryBlackLady Worked in a women's hospital ER. IThings go to shit FAST. I've had an ectopic that went from walky talky to us running to OR. Almost lost her. Folks seem to think we can "save the baby". SMDH Sorry we are trying to save a life & fertility not the clump of cells trying to kill her
@AngryBlackLady We don’t force men to give up their organs to save a life, why are we forcing women to give up their lives to save a fetus that likely won’t survive
@AngryBlackLady Thank you.Logic,lost in the sauce