Edinburgh Busking Concern @BuskingConcern
Edinburgh City Centre residents campaigning for the commercial activity that is busking to be carried out responsibly to protect our quality of life. Edinburgh Old Town Joined August 2019-
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Both selling CDs. This requires a Street Trader's Licence ('donation' in exchange for goods does not circumvent this) and using amplification to advertise trading in the street breaches the Control of Pollution Act 1974 Section 62 (Noise in streets).
Both selling CDs. This requires a Street Trader's Licence ('donation' in exchange for goods does not circumvent this) and using amplification to advertise trading in the street breaches the Control of Pollution Act 1974 Section 62 (Noise in streets).
A sunny Sunday in September sees amplified commercial buskers return to Edinburgh’s old town. Notice how small the powerful the amplifiers are these days - yet still powerful. As always, when asked to stop amplification they refuse. @EdinOldTownCC
The problem with amplified busking activity has clearly now starting to re-establish post lockdown, buskers again arriving in the city showing no consideration or respect for those living here. Meanwhile, we need to use our home more than ever, including trying to work here.
General behaviour of buskers has become worse with the systematic failure of any enforcement being typical in recent years. Last couple of summers we were often unable to use our property for normal purposes, our amenity + enjoyment of our property was so significantly impaired.
This week, they have been repeatedly asked to turn off their amplification, to reduce their volume or move elsewhere, and repeatedly reported to the police, as per Edinburgh Council guidance - clearly to no effect.
Allowing them to set up with amplification equipment and profit from making as much noise as they see fit is fundamentally incomparable with residents living here. NB Trading is not allowed and advertising these using amplification on the street is itself an offence: £5 CDs?
Normal busking, without amplification, is fine, but the space outside a residential building with A-listed historic windows (now free from traffic, with the Council's Spaces For People initiative) cannot be turned into an unmanaged concert venue.
Walking back home today, we could hear amplified buskers playing outside my apartment on the High St, from the bottom of Cockburn St, near where it meets Market St - they're so excessively loud!
Unreasonable nuisance is >50dB in residential areas and >60dB in mixed areas. Quite reasonably, amplification is explicitly prohibited as it would never be necessary if staying within reasonable noise limits, i.e., 60dB is unamplified vocals or quiet instrumentation.
I came across discussion of the provisions Vienna put in place in 2012. What is fascinating is that they clarified the term "unreasonable nuisance": falter.at/the-vienna-rev… I think we also find this term in the Environmental Protection Act 1990, which give CEC duties and powers
@BuskingConcern I spoke to 2 of the 3 police inspectors covering the festival this year. In addition to explaining the practical resource challenge, the weakness of Section 54, lack of clarity on what constitutes an "reasonable cause for annoyance" . The law is not fit for purpose.
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A sunny Sunday in September sees amplified commercial buskers return to Edinburgh’s old town. Notice how small the powerful the amplifiers are these days - yet still powerful. As always, when asked to stop amplification they refuse. @EdinOldTownCC
More from Julian Spalding 2016. Much of what he says reflects my own experience. I was living abroad 2015-16. I complained a few times in 2017, but waste of time, I was told. I complained 2018 lots, but incorrect info from police lead to 'talk' with CEC which obviously pointless.
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@weareEML @openairfly @Edinburgh_CC @TomKetley Not desperate stuff at all! If @openairfly keeps the NOISE down in #westprincesstreetgardens, then no complaints. Behaving beligerently will result in lots of complaints. The ball is 110% in their court. Over to you @TomKetley. Not surprised @weareEML is agitating .... yet again!
I wonder if this is why I've had the most unreasonable busking outside for the past two evenings. So not helpful!
Fast and Furious chiefs filming in Edinburgh have spent thousands of pounds to stop buskers playing during shooting trib.al/tJOJwTf
Edinburgh: 4.5 bbc.co.uk/news/science-e…
Permit needed and seems to require possession of an arts diploma! What about restricting all sound performance to only even hours? Every European city I look at takes production of antisocial noise seriously, especially in heritage zones. Why can't we?
This is great: brusselstimes.com/brussels/67693… But can one appreciate Brussels' UNESCO sites w/o being assaulted by noise? Use of an amplifier is prohibited without express permission of mayor or his delegate. In any event, sound emission must be <60dB: s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file…
Is it not very funny that CEC have closed streets to facilitate the filming of 'illegal street racing'? These are the very streets that we want traffic removed from to make the city safer and more accessible!
Large parts of the city centre are out of bounds this weekend to allow for more Fast and Furious filming. bit.ly/30cra9X
From @edinburghpaper in 2016 and things have only become worse: edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/make-edin…
Legislation of Street Music in Barcelona (2019): s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=61594… Melodic music in the Gothic Quarter: 65dB. Licence needed and fixed pitch/time allocation. I'd argue 60dB (cf. Copenhagen) is acceptable level, but if pitches carefully chosen the extra 5dB may be OK! 🙄
@CllrScottArthur One of my concerns is that traffic free streets leave a vacuum to be filled with antisocial busking: Vienna: translate.google.com/translate?hl=e… Copenhagen: international.kk.dk/sites/internat…
Interesting case: Social Government & Social Care Ombudsman upholds complaint that Lambeth Council failed to act about anti-social behaviour (ASB) and noise nuisance from buskers using amplified equipment and drums and public speakers using megaphones. lgo.org.uk/decisions/envi…
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Genuinely at my wits end with the gauntlet of tour bus staff on Waverley Bridge. I have spoken to our licensing staff about whether they ought to have street trader licenses, and will also be speaking to operators about taking it down a notch so that pedestrians can pass freely.
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