People see this as an example of the American electorate being fickle. But IMO it’s way more likely the average American wants the border tightly controlled AND doesn’t want masked ICE agents detaining random people who may or may not even be illegals.
People see this as an example of the American electorate being fickle. But IMO it’s way more likely the average American wants the border tightly controlled AND doesn’t want masked ICE agents detaining random people who may or may not even be illegals.
The structure of the primary coalitions/incentives and all that, but sometimes you wonder how popular a President could be if they just did the things that the electorate is very obviously asking for in some key areas.
@Conblob Plus the fact that most believe the border is more secure today.
@Conblob Americans like immigrants, but they hate *disorderly immigration* This shouldn't be too hard to figure out. The American people are once again more sensible than our politicians here
@Conblob More likely is 98% of Americans have zero actual knowledge about Southern border & immigration law so opinions are based on whatever the last thing they watched on TV, YouTube or Tiktok said. No Trump/GOP lies about "Biden's Open Border" leads to concerns rapidly decreasing...
@Conblob The avg person wanted the border closed and criminals deported. It was only a bunch of psychos on twitter who implied you ramp up ICE’s tactics, disobey judges, deport everyone, cancel refugee status, etc. Unsurprisingly, people really don’t like it
@Conblob the thing for most americans, i suspect, is that they imagine "the border" like an airport. they don't care that much about the specific security protocols as long as crazies don't hijack the plane, but they also don't wanna see people getting beat by TSA agents.
@Conblob The people crave a moderate approach that neither side wants to give them.
@Conblob They do not understand “tough border security” produces the people who do the latter. There is no “secure border but it’s run by compassionate social workers”. The job inherently appeals to people who want to wield extreme power over the vulnerable and desperate.
@Conblob Biden really should have just left some of Trump's old policies like remain in Mexico intact and kept things quiet
@Conblob people wanted ice at the border, not on every corner
@Conblob If only there was an immigration bill up to vote on last year...
@Conblob They also have always wanted to focus to be on what Trump and them said it would be which is criminals and bad people not all the people they've been rounding up
@Conblob Previous value of 55% should have been understood as "we currently have a nice equilibrium"
@Conblob I wonder if one of the things that will bite the GOP in the ass is that the people demanded all the aesthetics and ideals of fascism and got real fascism with cretinous characteristics
@Conblob Voters want the government to give them infinite subsidies without any taxes. Voters are morons.
@Conblob Yeah i don't think these are necessarily 2 inconsistent points.
@Conblob That’s probably accurate.
@Conblob I’m optimistic too, in a sense, but the reality is shit like “immigration approval” would’ve skyrocketed regardless because they are thermostatic idiots, even if they a real demand.
@Conblob Biden couldn't communicate himself out of a paper bag. Substitute someone with the communications abilities of Obama or Clinton, and you would have a much different outcome. Hell, I assert that John Kerry would have a had good chance of being reelected if he had been potus.
@Conblob No where in the original post did it state anything about illegal aliens. Citizens are just happy that the border is closed.
@Conblob Biden achieved all this with a hostile SCOTUS in 2 years, because, as usual, voters let Republicans take back the House at the midterms, as usual Where's the accountability for those now proven to have been WRONG, about everything, since 2016?
@Conblob It's more likely it's just a fake liberal gaslighting poll.
@Conblob No one is against immigrants, shithead. We wanted the border closed to ILLEGAL immigrants, shithead. That is what we got, shithead. When a press secretary, the DHS head, and the VP say the border is "closed," but we see people walking across the border.