Flavius Iustinus @MedievalProt
Reformed. Presbyterian. Seminarian. Byzantine Enjoyer. Christ is Lord. South Carolina, USA Joined July 2009-
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Cultivate a life of energetic, godly ambition. Lazy apathy is not humility. Modern culture is numb, bored, lazy, and astonishingly un-curious about the world. Christians should be enterprising, curious, hard-working—filled with the ambition to bear good fruit in God’s world.
My guess is that he probably doesn’t actually love her and can’t wait to get rid of her. So either he is a simp or manipulative. Either way this is effeminate.
My guess is that he probably doesn’t actually love her and can’t wait to get rid of her. So either he is a simp or manipulative. Either way this is effeminate.
"I don't agree with everything Doug Wilson says, but..." We can all assume you don't 100% agree with everything anybody says, so you don't have to preface a positive comment with it. Be free, you don't have to hedge everything and anticipate every objection.
This guy kept the peace. Not just for us, but for the world. I miss him.
This guy kept the peace. Not just for us, but for the world. I miss him.
Silence zadokite!
You’re the sociologist. You tell us
You’re the sociologist. You tell us
"Do you want to read the article first before sharing." "No."
"Do you want to read the article first before sharing." "No." https://t.co/z2PxYgwDFG
You lost me at “Harry Potter class @ Baylor”
You lost me at “Harry Potter class @ Baylor”
Your terms are acceptable.
Raymond spends a lot of time addressing whiteness. Whiteness is so central to his grievances with evangelicals, he is poised to perpetuate his own belief. He will never adequately address racism because his arguments and complaints are so White centered.
Raymond spends a lot of time addressing whiteness. Whiteness is so central to his grievances with evangelicals, he is poised to perpetuate his own belief. He will never adequately address racism because his arguments and complaints are so White centered.
5 more days.
Lady: “ how can you judge his heart” One doesn’t need to judge the heart, “the works of the flesh are manifest”
Lady: “ how can you judge his heart” One doesn’t need to judge the heart, “the works of the flesh are manifest”
Obligatory Easter post
I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem? I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem? I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Jesus Christ is King.
Hot Take: Trump putting the Constitution & Declaration of Independence in a Bible is simply making explicit what @DavidAFrench & @drmoore functionally believe. You believe that American liberal democracy is sacrosanct? Well, Trump just included your religious confession in the…
Behold the tyranny of the longhouse. Many such cases.
Behold the tyranny of the longhouse. Many such cases.
Archibald Alexander (the first professor of Princeton Seminary & Charles Hodge's mentor) concluded the following in his review of a woman's book on theology: “We are glad that Paul has said so emphatically, ‘I suffer not a woman to speak in the church;’ [1 Tim. 2:12] and…
So the application is to not answer opponents directly and instead only ridicule them behind their back. Got it.
So the application is to not answer opponents directly and instead only ridicule them behind their back. Got it.
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@mexinorseman @newvangelicals It’s an apology for my specific sin. I will not apologize where I did not sin against a person.
@August1757657 Intersectionality is the Golden Corral of Academia. Overcooked meat with mushy vegetables and a stale bun passed off as a meal.
@August1757657 New meme format just dropped.
Ok, I’ll bite. Who the heck is Taylor Swift, and why is everyone talking about him?
I thought TGC was popping up in my feed.
This is my latest article: "Some Christians believe it’s a sin to listen to Taylor Swift, but I don’t think they can defend that with scripture." slowtowrite.com/is-it-a-sin-to…
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Cultivate a life of energetic, godly ambition. Lazy apathy is not humility. Modern culture is numb, bored, lazy, and astonishingly un-curious about the world. Christians should be enterprising, curious, hard-working—filled with the ambition to bear good fruit in God’s world.
@MedievalProt That was sort of my first thought too. Didn’t put up a fight because it was a clear and easy way out
You can be a Doug Wilson CN, a Wolfe CN, or a goofy CN. I don’t care. I want to win.
Let this guy shout all he wants. 90% of them will still vote for Trump. So I don’t care.
Pastor Loran Livingston tore the church up with this one.