@NickJFreitas@mehdirhasan It’s absolutely intolerable to be lectured about American values and what my ancestors held dear by something called a “mehdi hasan”
Gay race communists are larping as libertarians now, making up weird bullshit about property rights that George Washington would shoot them in the face for.
Listen, you balsa-wood frying pan, if you don't think property can be held collectively, go hit a beehive with a stick and see what happens to your dumb ass.
These clowns don't really understand property rights at all, because to them, rights are just some shit they heard once and it sounded okay, so now they just make up shit about them based on whatever they think sounds good, too.
But the word "property rights" comes from two Latin roots.
"Property" meaning "shit I invested my time and effort in".
"Rights" meaning "I will hurt you if you mess with it".
So if we put that together, "property rights" means "if you mess with the stuff I worked for, I will hurt you".
That's how a creature as simple as a bee still manages to understand property rights when gay race communists don't. It's not just because the bee is smarter, it's also because bees put effort into things, and bees know how to hurt people.
Both investment and violence predate humanity, therefore so do property rights.
This means they aren't just some shit we made up. The only thing we invented was the words. Which means you don't get to argue about what they are. They are not a matter of opinion. They are exactly as I describe them here, and if you disagree, then you are just wrong.
If you don't think property can be held collectively, you are wrong.
People can band together to put effort into building something, like a house, a corporation, or a nation, and they can band together to hurt people who try to take it.
Investment + defense = property.
Without defense, there is no property, and without property, there will be no investment, because no one, not even some Boomer who doesn't have the sense nature gave to the humble bee, is stupid enough to keep putting efforts into things that will just get taken from him.
Socialism isn't ass because it holds property collectively. Everybody holds some property collectively. It's ass because it takes from investors and gives to non-investors.
Socialism is an inversion of property rights. It forbids the violence of the investor defending his property, and endorses the violence of the robber who steals it.
Americans are the heirs of those who invested in America. Property rights means they control that investment and defend it from robbers.
A robber isn't just anyone who steals your property to keep it. He's also anyone who steals your property to give it to someone else.
I recommend dealing with him the way Washington would.
@gummibear737@noam_dworman There’s considerable gap between 1-2, and both forms of leftist are definitive midwits, just smart enough to think themselves superior to traditions, but too dumb (or evil) to see the second order effects of tearing down societal structures
@gummibear737@noam_dworman Being a right winger who reads is tough, it’s pretty clear the intellectual levels are
1) well read right
2)well read left
3normie left
4)normie right
Normie conservatives can be mind numbing, but they usually land on the correct answer from appeals to tradition and religion
@_AmandaKerri Theory of mind here on amazing display. I understand the logic of how she came to the childish and retarded world view she holds, whereas she thinks my position is “people should go hungry and not have houses”
@avidseries@xwanyex Can bringing in millions of people who shift the electoral map and eventually cast ballots shift the zeitgeist? You don’t need to convince people when you can just replace with them with more agreeable ones
@spongebobfan360 Unfortunately senseless violence and tragedy is humanness. The things witnessed by children up until around 100-150 years ago are unspeakable even by modern adult standards, technology has helped us lift ourselves out of it mostly, but you can never escape human nature fully
@Scholars_Stage Good idea, unfortunately that’s not how it works. President is just like any other job, I wouldn’t bring my bosses out to crowds and publicly make demands of them, Trump can’t do that with his bosses either
"America is a creedal nation!"
"Okay, can we test people to see if they believe in the creed before letting them in?"
"No, that's racist."
"Then can we kick them out if they don't believe in the creed?"
"No, that's denying them due process and their constitutional rights."
"Can I see a copy of this creed?"
"Nope, no one can agree on exactly what it is. We think it has something to do with the declaration of independence, though."
"Okay, so what you're saying is that this creed defines the nation, but it isn't defined, that it forms the basis of the law, but has no effect on the law, that we owe allegiance to it, but that allegiance cannot be tested or demanded?"
"Yep!"
"So the creed could be anything, couldn't it? It could be 'horsies are pretty', or 'eat at Joe's', and it wouldn't make the slightest difference?"
"I suppose so. I never really thought about it. What's important is that judges decide who is an American, and what America's future will be."
"Say, aren't you a judge?"
"Yes, what's your point?"
Justice Neil Gorsuch: “We’re a creedal nation. What unites us is not a religion, not a race, it’s a belief in those ideas in the Declaration of Independence.”
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