A political movement around “housing” that is incapable of considering questions of housing quality is inherently unserious, I don’t know what to tell you.
@theprovenwinner Exactly - poor quality housing leads to failed housing! Which is also why one can't discuss housing provision without discussing housing design🤷. My comment below from yesterday:
@urbric @theprovenwinner This exchange shows the superficial level of thought that so often goes into online leftist thinking. They understand the needs of communities, and want them to be met, but somehow believe that sufficient moral correctness solves all problems.
@Thisisjdf @theprovenwinner AFAIK, he's less "online leftist thinking" & more exasperated with ppl's obsession about how housing looks rather than building housing. Just wanted to gently remind him that Design is for more than just "looks"& ignoring design akin to throwing out the baby with the bathwater
@urbric @Thisisjdf @theprovenwinner That’s for architects and engineers to figure out. The places I’ve lived in were perfectly fine as far as “design” goes. Just built more of that.
@constans @Thisisjdf @theprovenwinner Yes, I'm an architect & that's why I'm concerned about design = figuring it out before the buildings are built, not after. Badly designed housing or housing that's difficult/uneconomical to maintain results in failed housing with poor health & wellbeing outcomes for its residents
@urbric @Thisisjdf @theprovenwinner Most buildings turn out fine. We know how to build buildings. This is not something we are unaware of. Just build the buildings that already exist. We don’t have to spend a lot of time thinking about it
@constans @urbric @Thisisjdf @theprovenwinner While copy-paste architecture seems a tempting solution, every site comes with unique constraints and opportunities to be taken advantage of. I'm sure most people would prefer a home that takes full advantage of solar gains and views to one that's just "fine".
@constans @Thisisjdf @theprovenwinner Unfortunately, that's not true. Many public housing projects across the world have been demolished, a few within 2-3 decades of being built. Some due to bad design, some due to bad quality construction & others due to maintenance issues. We do have to learn from past failures.
@constans @Thisisjdf @theprovenwinner For example, here you can see how many public housing projects have been demolished so far in the US state of New Jersey (more than 20) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_p…