Ian Kluft ✈️🎈🌋 @[email protected] @ikluft
#Aviation #AvGeek #Science on this acct I'm a software engineer, pilot/CFI, Ham, rocket/balloon tracker Also me: @KO6YQ @AstroHawk ikluft.github.io/socialmedia.ht… Portland, OR, USA🇺🇸 Joined May 2009-
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City of Dallas posted "Totality Dallas Festival Recap" from April 8 #SolarEclipse2024. I attended that event, which was held at Samuell Farm Park in Mesquite. (Dallas owns the park. But it's SE outside Dallas.) We had 4min 8sec totality. youtube.com/watch?v=tP1jy2… #astronomy #travel
"Boeing's Starliner spacecraft will not fly private missions yet, officials say" by @SPACEdotcom / @howellspace - #Boeing is focusing on #NASA astronaut flight contracts for now, with #Starliner #CommercialCrew flights to #ISS being 4 years late. space.com/boeing-starlin… #space
Happy Anniversary to Qantas! This month marks forty years since @QantasUSA began non-stop flights between Sydney, Melbourne and Los Angeles! Fun fact: Qantas is an acronym of the airline's original name: Queensland and Northern Territory Aerial Services.
Lighting up the sky on our way to Niceland. 🇮🇸💫 📸: @AThor72
"Earth Formation Site" by @xkcd comic - Pick a location. Any location... xkcd.com/2925/ #geology #history #WTF
Happy Friday and a Happy #WorldPilotsDay! Whether it’s commercial, military, test, amateur hobby…or even space…our world wouldn’t be the same without you! Here’s to your hard work and dedication to the craft.
Celebrating the people who have taken us to new heights. #WorldPilotsDay
Soaring to new heights amongst the Evergreens. #FridayFlyday Photo: @ avwriterjoe
Check out @WestJet Frozen Livery 737 - 800 landing in #Phoenix earlier this month! 😍 📸: @airplanes365 #FlyPHX #avgeek #planespotting #PHX #SkyHarbor #aviationlovers
@arstechnica @SciGuySpace @CNBC @thesheetztweetz @lesliejosephs "NASA gives Starliner ‘go to proceed’" by @Boeing / @BoeingSpace - #NASA readiness review "go" for #Boeing #StarlinerCFT🚀 Crew Flight Test launch, planned no earlier than 22:34ET May 6. 1st crewed launch at ULA's SLC-41. starlinerupdates.com/nasa-gives-sta… #Starliner #CommercialCrew #space
"SpaceX has now landed more boosters than most other rockets ever launch" by @arstechnica / @SciGuySpace - #spaceX successfully landed an orbital booster🚀, including from #Falcon9 & #FalconHeavy launches, for the 300th time. 👀 arstechnica.com/space/2024/04/… #NewSpace #space #business
Amazon is shutting down its drone delivery service in California as it looks to other markets trib.al/QbdFwgN
Expert move by that long haul crew to maintain landing currency on the #B747, an airplane very hard to keep currency on because of the very nature of long haul flying! But seriously, I have many a question as to how they managed to perform such a landing. The go-around was…
Expert move by that long haul crew to maintain landing currency on the #B747, an airplane very hard to keep currency on because of the very nature of long haul flying! But seriously, I have many a question as to how they managed to perform such a landing. The go-around was…
An all-time favourite livery, the ANA Boeing 787-9 wearing the 'R2D2' Sar Wars full-body livery! 🎥🤩
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335 Followers 1K Following Just checking in to see what the bots and trolls are up to today.Last week, the Cherry Blossom Festival in Tokyo. Today, our own Cherry tree having its own festival! 🍒🌳
@ikluft It was great to finally meet ya face to face! Let's do it again sometime.
@ikluft @TheAstroN8 So happy you both met up! 🙌🎉
(sends to barber, schedules cut)
@ikluft @AstroHawk @BadAstronomer Thanks for following-up, I only saw the image, not the image with full reply article link & animation at first glance.
Lava flow update from the ongoing volcanic eruption on the Reykjanes Peninsula in Iceland as published by @Vedurstofan. The orange color shows the lava spread at 1:55 am on March 17. The red color shows the spread at 14:56 on the same day, covering 5.85 sq km yesterday afternoon.
@jonostrower Just wait until “Urban Air Mobility” is a thing…😳
@ikluft Extreme attention seeker and since "Boeing" is now a keyword in social media he uses it without a hint of knowledge.
After serving aboard USS Enterprise, Naval aviator ENS James H. Howard resigned his commission in 1941 to join the Flying Tigers, achieving ace status. When the group disbanded, he was commissioned a captain in the U.S. Army Air Forces and scored another six victories, making him…
@ikluft @airwaysmagazine Appreciate the share Ian! I’m actually pretty proud of this write up. Not often I am 🤣
I just realized this is my first flight into Dulles since they finished the Silver Line all the way to the airport.
If anyone wants my old flight training notes, they’re quite helpful. I learned on a carbureted 172M model with three flap settings and no detents. I loved that airplane.
@ikluft Good to know that Middle Earth has stricter aviation travel rules than Qantas’ vision of air travel.
My view for the week! #working from a hotel room. #EnjoyTheJourney
@AstroHawk @ikluft @arstechnica @SciGuySpace That was a super interesting article. If I had worked on a project for 5 years and wasn’t given time to troubleshoot, I might have had the same reaction. But, it’s surprising there wasn’t a planned contingency for this.