Taylor Tucker @tucker_thorson
Taylor Tucker- Assistant Coach at Des Moines Area Community College youtube.com/channel/UCJP04… Joined September 2018-
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Stagger Clear Rip- Jazz Nice lob set here: -clear out the weakside w/ curl or backcut -occupy X5 & rip screeners man w/ stagger
Nash Assists- TJ McConnell -more time in paint = better decisions & more options -ball changes sides = new angles for cutters & shooters
Ghost Flare Stagger- Wizards Really like the linking of actions here... Ghost Flare flows immediately into a stagger w/ multiple options
Flare Slips- Celtics Two main ways these work: 1) Angle- screen below the D & stay below... doesn't matter if they execute the switch or not... O has inside leverage (clips 1-3 & 7-9) 2) Confusion- D doesn't know who to go with & O slips to the rim (clips 4-6 & 10-12)
Post Entry... Cross (Jazz) Nice action out of post entry to create an advantage at the rim... love the rip screen in the last clip
Rub Short vs Denial- Celtics The defense is always wrong... deny the rub entry... counter with short action for the backcut
Cutting vs Loaded D- Magic Good counter when defenses load up/shrink the floor around a big time scorer like Banchero
Cam Spencer- Shot Fakes & Pivots Slowing the game down & keeping it simple... thought @JoeyBurton would appreciate these
Flare Attacks- Jazz Flares can be good for creating closeouts and putting attackers in space
Nail Ghosts- OKC Thunder Tough to guard a ghost that is setup so low: -lots of space to separate on the pop -hard to switch w/ PG already attacking
Stampede the Pin- Wizards The pace of the stampede puts pressure on the D... high-to-low angle of the pin gets the guard downhill in space
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Stagger Clear Rip- Jazz Nice lob set here: -clear out the weakside w/ curl or backcut -occupy X5 & rip screeners man w/ stagger
@tucker_thorson He finds guys and sets his teammates up for easy buckets. That's the true role of a PG!
Tough for off ball defenders to keep both vision of ball and their man. Sometimes enough for offensive players to find a small window for a pass or cut.
Nash Assists- TJ McConnell -more time in paint = better decisions & more options -ball changes sides = new angles for cutters & shooters
@tucker_thorson Add Nash Assist from Eric Bledsoe in CBA
Sometimes doing something with great pace (cutting, getting in and out of actions) will overcome imperfect technique.
One of the best videos I’ve seen in a good while!
Cam Spencer- Shot Fakes & Pivots Slowing the game down & keeping it simple... thought @JoeyBurton would appreciate these
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note📝 Flip Veer Throwback
Flip Veer... Shooter set Simple misdirection action for a shooter
Borrego is really good at these sorts of concepts. Creating multiple points of confusion for defenses, often giving them contradictory signals.
Weakside Curl to Stagger- Pelicans Weakside pin & curl turns into almost a stagger... creates a lot of bodies to navigate when chasing the shooter Tough to switch & talk out... multiple defenders occupied
But the NBA is all 1 on 1 🙄
Rub Flip- Knicks Quick hitting action that creates confusion... love the pace Handoff guy is in action before (rub) & after (flare) the handoff... puts a lot of stress on D
KJ abrirá um novo leque na NBA que estenderá para outras franquias. É uma incógnita o papel dos hiper atleticos que não possuem arremessos sendo não-big, Martin abriu um novo horizonte para esses caras. Mazzulla está tentando fazer o Lamar e Oshae um "KJ", que dê certo!
Transition Slips- KJ Martin Nice way to get behind the D... slip happens fast with roll man already running toward the rim... less help/tags in transition
The glory of transition O: There are no scouting reports in transition. Defense is so worried about getting back and set, that tendency knowledge often goes out the window
@tucker_thorson I remember Max Strus got a couple of threes early in game 2 of the finals by ghosting screens. Just love watching intelligent basketball. Also Jeff Van Gundy still stuck over the pronounciation of Braun's name lol
I would love to build an offense around this the opportunities are there and you can tweak it no matter the age group
Shallow Cut actions- Jazz Creates confusion & open up space... so many options
Great Xs and Os here. 🏀🧠
Weakside Pin Occupy- 76ers The weakside pin occupies the low and nail tag... slipping the PnR helps get the roller behind the D