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@thomaschattwill It seems France has become Houellebecq’s “Submission” in real life…
@JoshuaBarzon A: Destin is quite nice, water is lovely.
I think you are not comprehending what RFK is saying though. If you read your history you will find that nearly all vaccines lack an original placebo/inert control in original trials. Virtually all use an adjuvant as control not saline. Using a daisy chain for safety control is questionable
@ronsterd89 That’s why you get a tray. Place leftovers and package on tray and throw away in giant trash receptacles. That way staff can come by and wipe table for next group.
My point is, one can demand “proof”, but oftentimes direct evidence could be lacking, especially in case of uncommon occurrences. One needs to evaluate all the ancillary data and plausible evidence. There are known dangers to vaccines, they all contain warnings, which does not mean they are ineffective nor does it mean they could not cause injury
Even if someone smoked cigarettes for 40 years and contracted lung cancer, you can’t prove that smoking caused it. It’s a scientific consensus with plausibility. No animal model has produced lung cancer in testing. It is statistical data and indirect scientific evidence that established causation for smoking.
@_iamblakeley Blaming Chevron? Get off your energy wasting phone then. So freaking self-righteous. Live what you are so passionate about. Go grow some food. Raise a chicken.
@mirijoie Your point is well made. Individual potential shouldn’t be hampered. At the same time dispensations need not replace merit. Cofnas seems a bit dubious and his research may be redundant, but his ideas around forcing outcomes is not without merit.
@DrNeilStone It’s not “historic” unless history started after say 1990. Just stop already with your ideological nonsense. Are you some bot?
@nipe_fn @DrNeilStone You are not reading comprehensively. In the case of Covid, where no known vaccine or treatment was available, then “ethically” it is permissible to run a saline placebo. Not the same as running a trial for a new flu vaccine. Get it?
I’m not recommending anything. I think vaccines can be beneficial. What I can’t stand is medical folk not even willing to admit there are downsides, side effects and risks. That is unscientific and unscrupulous. Tell me the risks of say Pfizer’s Covid vaccine, just admit to their labeling
@nipe_fn @DrNeilStone You read the paper, Pfizer ran a saline control thus “ethically” denying a vaccine in the middle of a pandemic.
@nipe_fn @DrNeilStone Huh? You have trouble with reading comprehension? Show a single example of a vaccine trial where a non-immune responsive placebo was used as the control. Pick a vaccine that tested before any vaccine for said condition was available to avoid ethical concerns. I’ll wait…
@AmeshAA I enjoyed your discussion. It contained a thoughtful nuanced argument.
@CodyPM18002 @tylerblack32 But he does get to keep his job by toeing the line. If more understanding of the disorder meant more diagnosis of the said disorder, I’m not sure that’s a good thing. Over diagnosis is a real thing.
Well, I am a scientist and worked to develop both vaccines and monoclonal antibody treatments, sponsored numerous clinical studies and spent years looking at clinical and epidemiology data, so I call your bluff. How is 1988-1991 at higher vaccination coverage similar to today. I’ll wait…
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