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@five_se7en I really don't think that we should be handing over mining and other industries to the same types of people who run DPWH, LTO, BIR, BI, and BOC. But that's just me
I'm not sure I understand the problem, are we supposed to just keep natural resources in the ground forever and never extract them?
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@five_se7en Nationalization means the government owns and operates them. How do you square that position with the fact, which I'm sure you acknowledge, that our government is corrupt and incompetent?
@five_se7en No idea what you mean, by law even the largest mining operations can only have 40% foreign equity in them, and they obviously hire mostly Filipinos. They also pay taxes here. Sounds like we get plenty of benefits from them
@nulltrace Oh, okay, so we have to wait for the proletariat revolution and the resulting worker's utopia before we can mine. I guess it'll come any day now (50+ years of trying, 50+ years of failure)
I feel like I'm going insane. What the fuck is "evil" about quarrying? I'm convinced that people are reacting to this purely out of emotions and aesthetic sense, it has nothing to do with the actual merits vs downsides of mining
@nulltrace "Nationalized" just means government-owned and operated, how do you square this position with your observation that our government is corrupt and incompetent?
@nulltrace Filipinos own and work in those mining companies, what are you even talking about?
@chickenus271 Just keep this in mind
@KainofHearts If you explained the Sengoku era or the Hundred Years' War to guys like Lakandula or Soliman, they probably would've understood if perfectly. In fact for all we know they did know a lot about feudal Japan given our trade ties with them
The precolonial Philippines discourse is funny because "progressives" and Third Worldists whine about how Spain destroyed our "native culture." What was that culture? Absolute monarchies with medieval Europe/Japan-style caste systems and slavery. Our ancestors were chuds
pre colonial filipino discourse suck for the most part cause theyre still insecure about it. every record, and art is weaponized as evidence that we had civilization like bro wbk get over it
@nulltrace Yeah and they generate wealth and employment by doing so, and they pay taxes. So what's the problem? As I pointed out in another poast mining is already a risky, capital-intensive, low-margin enterprise that takes years before being profitable and you people want to make it worse
@nulltrace No? I'm pretty sure they mine their resources too. Most of Australia's exports, for example, come from their mining industry. And if you include petroleum extraction then the US and Canada also extract and sell a lot of their own resources
Gerry Lanuza's opinions and behavior are so absurd that even back in college I suspected that he's a government intelligence asset whose job is to discredit Communism. Then when I graduated I asked my colleagues and it turns out he's really just a nut
@ramenkuroda81 So we should just leave those resources there forever?
Really? What's your sources for this? I'd imagine that all of the people employed by those mining companies, the employees of the companies that sell them goods and services, and the employees of the companies that use the raw materials for production all benefit
Because walang clear beneficiaries maliban sa extractors. Walang proper compensation sa IPs, walang tulong sa local community, hindi rin naman nag-iimprove ang national economy. Walang maayos na decommissioning/rehabilitation plan. Always ask, development for whom?
@waynedows10 @PootisBenedikt Yes how did you know
I don't understand the problem with this either. Are people aware that Sierra Madre is massive (thousands of square km in area) and logging and mining operations are small compared to that? Or are we just supposed to keep all those resources untapped forever?
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@waynedows10 Except all of the people retweeting that post freaking out about it?
@waynedows10 @PootisBenedikt Idk if I'm just retarded but there's nothing in there that says that we're overextracting, or that mining is bad. All it says is that there's some gaps in the implementation of our laws, which makes sense
@waynedows10 What does the Super El Niño have to do with mining?
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@waynedows10 Yeah, I mean, how do you know our mining industry is overextracting?
@waynedows10 Source? And what does "overextracting" mean, and it also implies that there's an optimal level of extraction. What's the optimal level?
Are we overextracting? I feel like if anything we're underextracting, we could use the jobs and wealth
Instead na siya mismo ang umintindi bakit may ganitong pushback, ay inutos pa sa ibang tao. Are we really explaining in the big year of our lord 2026 WHY OVER-EXTRACTION IS BAD? DURING THE MOST INTENSE EL NIÑO? "The proof for this is left as an exercise to the reader" eme.
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