Mark Thomsen @MarkMaximum7
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@excessivelyhana Alles Gute. Hat dir Clara jedenfalls auch gratuliert? Das wäre ja wohl das Mindeste.
@AndreasShrugged @timolmn Es geht aber doch nicht um "die Linke als politische Bewegung", sondern um die Partei. Und zwischen "autoritär" und "totalitär" besteht ein himmelweiter Unterschied. "Die Linke als politische Bewegung hat sich an der Macht oft autoritär gezeigt"- da könnte man zustimmen.
@meilaoban @mehdirhasan @mattyglesias Best possible outcomes determined by whom? What if what most people consider as best possible outcomes violates consequentialism? Who determines which values should go into the *correct* consequentialist function? Why medium term?
@tobias_gossmann FDP 4%? Das ist nicht mehr "mein" Allensbach. Also mindestens eine 4,5% hätte ich da schon erwartet. Oder sind da noch 3,5% für FW unter Sonstige versteckt?
@giulio_mattioli @meilaoban I also think that calling Weber "dumb" was wrong. Factually and morally. My reasons just differ from yours.
@giulio_mattioli @meilaoban With this I agree.
@giulio_mattioli @meilaoban "Bemusing", yes. "Repulsed" is changing the goal post. And obviously so. But I won't engage further with your bad faith argumentation here.
@giulio_mattioli @meilaoban A ignoratio elenchi and a non-sequitur. Whether you feel repulsed by it and whether such a feeling would be apt wasn't under discussion. Only if such forms of critique would be ill-founded under circumstances of paradigm plurality.
@giulio_mattioli @meilaoban A Gadamer can rationally utter aharsh critique of a descriptionist theory of names. Husserl could have agreed with criticism of identity materialism as a consequence of Sonnenstich.
@giulio_mattioli @meilaoban Regularly, yes. Sometimes without justification. Esp in initial stages. But of course scientists can criticise malpractice and bad arguments even from scientists working under different paradigms.
@econ_lessmann @D_Langenmayr Noted. Aber wenn jemand politischen Aktivismus betreibt, ist man Aktivist. Man kann dann die Rolle kritisieren aber Zuschreibung sollte in einigen Fällen doch unstrittig sein.
@giulio_mattioli @meilaoban In normal natural science , yes. But what is relevent for discussion is how natural scientists react when a paradigm is under stress and scrutiny . Btw physics surely doesn't have a single paradigm post quantum mechanics and gen rel theory.
@econ_lessmann @D_Langenmayr Klar. Wenn es erstmal zu Dunking kommt, werden die Formulierungen schärfer. Aber Unterschied zwischen harscher Kritik an Position oder partieller Rolle "und Aktivist" würde ich schon von Schmähkritik trennen. Schmähkritik kann natürlich in bestimmten Fällen auch angemessen sein
@econ_lessmann @D_Langenmayr Aber hier wird doch lediglich harsche Kritik formuliert. Der Tonfall ist imo nicht potenziell unangemessen. Bei Kritik an Buch und Thesen von IW war das anders. Ein ähnlicher Tonfall gegenüber Zucman wäre klarer unangemessen- eben aufgrund wissenschaftlichen Standings.
@giulio_mattioli @meilaoban The connection with Kuhn's theory is loose. For that to be tight it would have to be established that Weber and here critics are writing in different paradigms and that Weber's paradigm has some empirical support a/or that mainstream economics deals with recalcritent evidence.
@meilaoban Andere Lesart : Demokratie sollte selbst dann unkonstitutionalisiert im einschlägigen Sinn bleiben, wenn Pöbelherrschaft dadurch ermöglicht würde. Hatte ich nicht erwähnt, da ich bei der Lesart den ersten Tweet gedrükot hätte, wenn ich Rudi dafür hätte kritisieren wollen.
@meilaoban Zeichenbegrenzung.In einzelnen Ländern sicher möglich. Aber selbst für Brasilien war One-Term-Bolsonaro Sr. keine Pöbelherrschaft. Bei Flavio könnten Checks-and-Balances sehenden Auges abgewählt werden. Aber selbst dann ist unklar, ob Flavio wiedergewählt würde.
@green_clarity99 @markus_bublitz @Die_Gruenen Ne. Das folgt nicht. Die Union hat Grüne in damaliger Oppositionsrolle vielleicht zum politischen Hauptgegner erklärt gehabt. Aber aus strategischer Rivalität folgt nicht, dass man nicht fürs Gemeinwohl zusammen koalieren könnte.
@meilaoban Bei enger Lesart könnte man immer noch andere Reaktionen besser erachten. In Länder gehen, die vor Pöbelherrschaft gefeiter scheinen, Widerstand zu leisten, etc. und nicht eigenen Schutz als Primärziel anzugeben. Aber ich glaube nicht, dass das der Kritikpunkt war.
@meilaoban Alternative Kritikansätze wären z.B., dass Bachmanns Menschenbild so ist, dass er in jetziger Situation "Pöbelherrschaften" aufziehen sieht, zumindest wenn es keine Konstitutionalisierung gibt. Oder dass Konstitutionaliserungen da etwas zum Besseren wenden könnten.
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