Lucius Lorenzo @zac_bow
Munsonian with an interest in philanthropy, public history, sports, and current events Muncietown, IN Joined August 2011-
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@ZeekArkham You are all for the truth but seemingly unaware of the actual truth in these matters (naivety and ignorance are different sides of the same coin)
@KenDBerryMD Study's real and summarized accurately (Sniderman, EJPC 2026, n=293,872). But it's observational. HDL-C may just mark metabolic health, and HDL-raising drugs flopped in trials. Interaction HR 0.95 means high apoB's risk is dampened, not erased. It's not a free pass for high apoB.
@CaliPaddy @davidasinclair Won't really move the needle. Financial incentives have been tried with limited success. The issue is cultural and societal/generational.
@Bd_h123 @VarmaPamela @AriFleischer No, because those two terms have distinct definitions. In most cases, Doctor means anyone with PhD, medical or otherwise.
@mattvanswol This assumes you were ever tolerant in the first place, which you of course weren't...
@mattvanswol That would require him to donate money to something other than maga candidates
@Chris__X__ Unless it involves their religion which they will force down your throats and into the public life...
@ChipActual But didn't Daddy Trump say he could reverse everything right away?
@kevinnbass And the conservative movement hasn't moved further rightward towards authoritarianism and fascist like tendencies?You are logically inconsistent in how you categorize the major political ideologies and movements in the country.
@kevinnbass Or they had the mental gymnastics and unethical behavior aimed at slandering a person. It's not like Paxton is even remotely a good or upstanding candidate
@BrendaFrost18 @kevinnbass Like that isn't analysis but an uniformed opinion. Wouldn't it just be easier to admit he was wrong?
@Kansanparantaja @grok @FilmoreJenna @BradStanfieldMD There are some researchers, particularly in the keto and carnivore tribes, that subscribe to your view, but it is fairly fringe with almost no good data backing it (the 2024 study often cited had serious methodological issues). Again, you have avoided pointing to supporting data
@Kansanparantaja @grok @FilmoreJenna @BradStanfieldMD The academic consensus and view held by the most respected researchers is that ApoB is the fuel, and the endothelium and local environment are how flammable the wall is. You need both for a fire. Lowering either helps, but the evidence that lowering fuel works is much deeper.
@Kansanparantaja @grok @FilmoreJenna @BradStanfieldMD Did you miss the part where that type of study would be questionable ethically to conduct and not necessary to draw a strong conclusion?Again, you're arguing from the weakest position and on the "possibility it's true" and not the likelihood-there's a reason cardiologist disagree
@Kansanparantaja @grok @FilmoreJenna @BradStanfieldMD Are you asking about the possibility or likelihood? It feels like you are arguing, at this point, for the smallest of probabilities just to save face and not admit holding a fairly untenable view. Grok repeatedly corrected you and you still stubbornly held your ground.
@Kansanparantaja @grok @FilmoreJenna @BradStanfieldMD You are the most stubborn individual ever. You asked Grok to prove that you were right and then Grok proceeded to rebut you at every turn. Keep being stubbornly prideful in face of the current evidence.
@Kansanparantaja @FilmoreJenna @BradStanfieldMD You've spent the entire conversation trying to poke holes in the quality of the studies, not providing evidence for defending your inference (likely because the evidence I've provided points to the opposite conclusion you're drawing). Good luck in your lonely journey...
@nicknorwitz Or because you are relatively young and almost no one under 40-45 have a negative calcium score
@Kansanparantaja @FilmoreJenna @BradStanfieldMD And you refuse to accept my the evidence as presented and refuse to provide any type of evidence to support your hypothesis (which has almost no evidence to support it which is likely why you are refusing to defend it). I think we are at an impasse....
@Kansanparantaja @FilmoreJenna @BradStanfieldMD At best, all of the factors you listed are accelerants and not causal in a primary sense. ApoB is necessary for atherosclerosis.We have evidence of populations with none of the other health risk factors you listed, but still high ApoB with atherosclerosis. Where's your evidence?
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